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I need you guys to watch this video and provide some feedback. It comes from circa 1984-ish. I promise it is 100% real.
Dauer's Testimony, New Age Movement on the 700 Club - YouTube
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Dauer's Testimony, New Age Movement on the 700 Club - YouTube
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Some people have a different take on religion from me - like the folks from 700 Club, and also like a few friends who have accepted that I am lost forever.
FWIW - I was raised by the friendly folks who brought you the Spanish Inquisition. They would have burned everybody in that video.
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
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I need you guys to watch this video and provide some feedback. It comes from circa 1984-ish. I promise it is 100% real.
Dauer's Testimony, New Age Movement on the 700 Club - YouTube
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Dauer's Testimony, New Age Movement on the 700 Club - YouTube
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I think this should be mandatory watching material for new members...
(I see Lars put this in the picture thread...hell, let's post it everywhere so everyone sees it.)
(I see Lars put this in the picture thread...hell, let's post it everywhere so everyone sees it.)
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Ironically, I just recently became aware of the fact that the Oxford English Dictionary, the definitive record of the English language, has, as of the current edition, revised its definition of the word "literally" to include its usage in the figurative sense:
literally, adv.
Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈlɪt(ə)rəli/ , U.S. /ˈlɪdərəli/ , /ˈlɪtrəli/
Forms: see LITERAL adj. and n. and -LY suffix2.
Etymology: < LITERAL adj. + -LY suffix2. Compare Middle French, French littéralement ...
I. In a literal manner or sense.
1.
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c. colloq. Used to indicate that some (freq. conventional) metaphorical or hyperbolical expression is to be taken in the strongest admissible sense: ‘virtually, as good as’; (also) ‘completely, utterly, absolutely’. Now one of the most common uses, although often considered irregular in standard English since it reverses the original sense of literally (‘not figuratively or metaphorically’).
1769 F. BROOKE Hist. Emily Montague IV. ccxvii. 83 He is a fortunate man to be introduced to such a party of fine women at his arrival; it is literally to feed among the lilies.
1801 Spirit of Farmers' Museum 262 He is, literally, made up of marechal powder, cravat, and bootees.
1825 J. DENNISTON Legends Galloway 99 Lady Kirkclaugh, who, literally worn to a shadow, died of a broken heart.
1863 F. A. KEMBLE Jrnl. Resid. Georgian Plantation 105 For the last four years..I literally coined money.
1876 ‘M. TWAIN’ Adventures Tom Sawyer ii. 20 And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth.
1906 Westm. Gaz. 15 Nov. 2/1 Mr. Chamberlain literally bubbled over with gratitude.
1975 Chem. Week (Nexis) 26 Mar. 10 ‘They're literally throwing money at these programs,’ said a Ford Administration official.
2008 Herald-Times (Bloomington, Indiana) 22 Oct. A8/1 ‘OMG, I literally died when I found out!’ No, you figuratively died. Otherwise, you would not be around to relay your pointless anecdote.
1801 Spirit of Farmers' Museum 262 He is, literally, made up of marechal powder, cravat, and bootees.
1825 J. DENNISTON Legends Galloway 99 Lady Kirkclaugh, who, literally worn to a shadow, died of a broken heart.
1863 F. A. KEMBLE Jrnl. Resid. Georgian Plantation 105 For the last four years..I literally coined money.
1876 ‘M. TWAIN’ Adventures Tom Sawyer ii. 20 And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth.
1906 Westm. Gaz. 15 Nov. 2/1 Mr. Chamberlain literally bubbled over with gratitude.
1975 Chem. Week (Nexis) 26 Mar. 10 ‘They're literally throwing money at these programs,’ said a Ford Administration official.
2008 Herald-Times (Bloomington, Indiana) 22 Oct. A8/1 ‘OMG, I literally died when I found out!’ No, you figuratively died. Otherwise, you would not be around to relay your pointless anecdote.
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Ironically, I just recently became aware of the fact that the Oxford English Dictionary, the definitive record of the English language, has, as of the current edition, revised its definition of the word "literally" to include its usage in the figurative sense:
literally, adv.
Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈlɪt(ə)rəli/ , U.S. /ˈlɪdərəli/ , /ˈlɪtrəli/
Forms: see LITERAL adj. and n. and -LY suffix2.
Etymology: < LITERAL adj. + -LY suffix2. Compare Middle French, French littéralement ...
I. In a literal manner or sense.
1.
(snip)
c. colloq. Used to indicate that some (freq. conventional) metaphorical or hyperbolical expression is to be taken in the strongest admissible sense: ‘virtually, as good as’; (also) ‘completely, utterly, absolutely’. Now one of the most common uses, although often considered irregular in standard English since it reverses the original sense of literally (‘not figuratively or metaphorically’).
literally, adv.
Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈlɪt(ə)rəli/ , U.S. /ˈlɪdərəli/ , /ˈlɪtrəli/
Forms: see LITERAL adj. and n. and -LY suffix2.
Etymology: < LITERAL adj. + -LY suffix2. Compare Middle French, French littéralement ...
I. In a literal manner or sense.
1.
(snip)
c. colloq. Used to indicate that some (freq. conventional) metaphorical or hyperbolical expression is to be taken in the strongest admissible sense: ‘virtually, as good as’; (also) ‘completely, utterly, absolutely’. Now one of the most common uses, although often considered irregular in standard English since it reverses the original sense of literally (‘not figuratively or metaphorically’).
1769 F. BROOKE Hist. Emily Montague IV. ccxvii. 83 He is a fortunate man to be introduced to such a party of fine women at his arrival; it is literally to feed among the lilies.
1801 Spirit of Farmers' Museum 262 He is, literally, made up of marechal powder, cravat, and bootees.
1825 J. DENNISTON Legends Galloway 99 Lady Kirkclaugh, who, literally worn to a shadow, died of a broken heart.
1863 F. A. KEMBLE Jrnl. Resid. Georgian Plantation 105 For the last four years..I literally coined money.
1876 ‘M. TWAIN’ Adventures Tom Sawyer ii. 20 And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth.
1906 Westm. Gaz. 15 Nov. 2/1 Mr. Chamberlain literally bubbled over with gratitude.
1975 Chem. Week (Nexis) 26 Mar. 10 ‘They're literally throwing money at these programs,’ said a Ford Administration official.
2008 Herald-Times (Bloomington, Indiana) 22 Oct. A8/1 ‘OMG, I literally died when I found out!’ No, you figuratively died. Otherwise, you would not be around to relay your pointless anecdote.
1801 Spirit of Farmers' Museum 262 He is, literally, made up of marechal powder, cravat, and bootees.
1825 J. DENNISTON Legends Galloway 99 Lady Kirkclaugh, who, literally worn to a shadow, died of a broken heart.
1863 F. A. KEMBLE Jrnl. Resid. Georgian Plantation 105 For the last four years..I literally coined money.
1876 ‘M. TWAIN’ Adventures Tom Sawyer ii. 20 And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth.
1906 Westm. Gaz. 15 Nov. 2/1 Mr. Chamberlain literally bubbled over with gratitude.
1975 Chem. Week (Nexis) 26 Mar. 10 ‘They're literally throwing money at these programs,’ said a Ford Administration official.
2008 Herald-Times (Bloomington, Indiana) 22 Oct. A8/1 ‘OMG, I literally died when I found out!’ No, you figuratively died. Otherwise, you would not be around to relay your pointless anecdote.
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
This is kind of depressing.
As a TV guy, a LOLed when, while watching that video, I noticed that on the LOST title card, they'd faithfully reproduced (in parody form), the network bug, which is what we call that ever-present logo in the lower corner of the screen:
Then I looked more closely at it:
Really? They just got done with a section on proper use of the apostrophe, and yet on this page they have written "Learn your ABC's, doofus."?!?
For shame, Al. You have violated the most sacred covenant of the Grammar ****.
As a TV guy, a LOLed when, while watching that video, I noticed that on the LOST title card, they'd faithfully reproduced (in parody form), the network bug, which is what we call that ever-present logo in the lower corner of the screen:
Then I looked more closely at it:
Really? They just got done with a section on proper use of the apostrophe, and yet on this page they have written "Learn your ABC's, doofus."?!?
For shame, Al. You have violated the most sacred covenant of the Grammar ****.
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Hahahaha, I didn't notice that I made a post while cleaning my keyboard- my monitor was blank and should have been on the password screen.
Joe- Since you got a kick out of the LOST shot, did you catch the stab at Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" lyrics?
Joe- Since you got a kick out of the LOST shot, did you catch the stab at Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" lyrics?
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While "abc" appears here in a logo, it nevertheless remains an abbreviation consisting of all lower case letters and thus it is acceptable to form the plural with an apostrophe.
Additionally, usage is divided on the more typical "ABC" form. Dictionary entries typically offer both "ABC's" and "ABCs" as acceptable plural forms.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Disagree. It is acceptable to use an apostrophe to form the plural of some abbreviations. Typically these include abbreviations with both upper and lower case letters, all lower case letters, or internal periods, but the overarching principle is to use the apostrophe when it reduces confusion for the reader.
I quote the Oxford University Press Manual of Grammar and Usage:
Apostrophes and plural forms
The general rule is that you should not use an apostrophe to form the plurals of nouns, abbreviations, or dates made up of numbers: just add -s (or -es, if the noun in question forms its plural with -es). For example:
GRAMMAR AND USAGE / PUNCTUATION / APOSTROPHE (’)
The general rule is that you should not use an apostrophe to form the plurals of nouns, abbreviations, or dates made up of numbers: just add -s (or -es, if the noun in question forms its plural with -es). For example:
euro euros (e.g. The cost of the trip is 570 euros.)
pizza pizzas (e.g. Traditional Italian pizzas are thin and crisp.)
apple apples (e.g. She buys big bags of organic apples and carrots.)
MP MPs (e.g. Local MPs are divided on this issue.)
1990 1990s (e.g. The situation was different in the 1990s.)
pizza pizzas (e.g. Traditional Italian pizzas are thin and crisp.)
apple apples (e.g. She buys big bags of organic apples and carrots.)
MP MPs (e.g. Local MPs are divided on this issue.)
1990 1990s (e.g. The situation was different in the 1990s.)
GRAMMAR AND USAGE / PUNCTUATION / APOSTROPHE (’)
And the Methodist University Department of English and Writing's "Dirty Dozen list of the twelve worst and most common errors in English"
Error 11: Error in the Use of the Apostrophe (apos)
Until recently apostrophes were used to form the plurals of abbrevations (MA’s), dates (1980’s) and words or characters named as words, (if’s, and’s and but’s). Most current texts do not recommend the apostrophe in these cases.
Methodist University - The Dirty Dozen: Error in the Use of the Apostrophe
Until recently apostrophes were used to form the plurals of abbrevations (MA’s), dates (1980’s) and words or characters named as words, (if’s, and’s and but’s). Most current texts do not recommend the apostrophe in these cases.
He earned two MAs in the 1980s.
My phone number has three 3s.
You used too many ands in you speech.
My phone number has three 3s.
You used too many ands in you speech.
Methodist University - The Dirty Dozen: Error in the Use of the Apostrophe
And the Chicago Manual of Style:
6.11 So far as can be done without confusion, single or multiple letters, hyphenated coinages, and numbers used as nouns [...] form the plural by adding s alone.
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And the Associated Press Stylebook:
MULTIPLE LETTERS: Add s:
She knows her ABCs. I gave him five IOUs. Four VIPs were there.
Associated Press Stylebook
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Not sure how I managed to figuratively forget all about Weird Al over the past decade or so. I have literally every one of his albums from the 80s and 90s, mostly on cassette.
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