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Braineack 10-16-2013 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1063460)
perhaps you should consider why you give a fuck if your hose is collapsible or not.

if you have a yard, you have the space for a full size hose of solid quality.

my 100' hose takes like 20 minutes to gather back up and wind up.

i love my collasable silicone hose, but the plastic fittings are junk.

Joe Perez 10-16-2013 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1063469)
my 100' hose takes like 20 minutes to gather back up and wind up.

How is this relevant to diesel fuel?

Braineack 10-16-2013 10:45 AM

I didnt read Scrappy's post as being about diesel fuels, but lawn hoses.

Joe Perez 10-16-2013 10:48 AM

Scrappy's post is irrelevant so long as my question about diesel fuel, gasoline and water remains unanswered.

viperormiata 10-16-2013 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Pen2_the_penguin (Post 1061726)
definitely a leak, my guess is a bad o-ring somewhere.

I think you are right. I gave it another can; three days later it's warm again :crx:

Never had a/c issues before, so I don't even know where to start.

calteg 10-16-2013 11:14 AM

Since I put my RSX up for sale, EVERY SINGLE interested party has been an 18 yr old Hispanic kid with bad credit.

My fault for buying a fail car in the first place.

y8s 10-16-2013 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1063479)
Scrappy's post is irrelevant so long as my question about diesel fuel, gasoline and water remains unanswered.

miatajoe.net,

miscibility mean anything to you?

Joe Perez 10-16-2013 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1063488)
miscibility mean anything to you?

Yes, but to the best of my knowledge diesel fuel and gasoline behave similarly in this regard.

My quandary is mostly "Why does water seem to be such a problem in diesel applications, whereas we don't even think about it in gasoline applications?"

Scrappy Jack 10-16-2013 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1063460)
perhaps you should consider why you give a fuck if your hose is collapsible or not.

if you have a yard, you have the space for a full size hose of solid quality.

It's not about the lack of space. It's about the convenience and efficiency. My 50' standard hose is a pain in the ass to lug around, especially if I have to toss it over the fence to use outside of the backyard (e.g. in my driveway) or carry it to the front of the house for pressure washing or some other function - especially since I keep it wound up in a plastic reel box.

The collapsible hose is, as advertised, incredibly light weight and compact. A 5 year old girl (or Braineack) could carry it with one hand. You don't have to fark around with a box or other storage option and it effectively winds itself up vs having to try and coil a standard hose or winch it around a reel.

It is superior in every way except durability which is, clearly, the trump card.

hankclaussen 10-16-2013 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 1063513)
It's not about the lack of space. It's about the convenience and efficiency. My 50' standard hose is a pain in the ass to lug around, especially if I have to toss it over the fence to use outside of the backyard (e.g. in my driveway) or carry it to the front of the house for pressure washing or some other function - especially since I keep it wound up in a plastic reel box.

The collapsible hose is, as advertised, incredibly light weight and compact. A 5 year old girl (or Braineack) could carry it with one hand. You don't have to fark around with a box or other storage option and it effectively winds itself up vs having to try and coil a standard hose or winch it around a reel.

It is superior in every way except durability which is, clearly, the trump card.

They are total garbage IMHO. Yes, because not durable.

Bryce 10-16-2013 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1063510)
Yes, but to the best of my knowledge diesel fuel and gasoline behave similarly in this regard.

My quandary is mostly "Why does water seem to be such a problem in diesel applications, whereas we don't even think about it in gasoline applications?"

I just now heard an advertisement playing on a coworker's radio for some kind of Ethanol fuel system treatment product that mentioned water removal.

Somebody has thought about it and brought a product to market for it. Well, E85 at least.

bahurd 10-16-2013 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1063510)
Yes, but to the best of my knowledge diesel fuel and gasoline behave similarly in this regard.

My quandary is mostly "Why does water seem to be such a problem in diesel applications, whereas we don't even think about it in gasoline applications?"

Don't ask me why this site has a reasonable answer, but it does: Water in Diesel Fuel Can Wreak Havoc in Engines

Nonetheless, well written and understandable.

y8s 10-16-2013 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1063510)
Yes, but to the best of my knowledge diesel fuel and gasoline behave similarly in this regard.

My quandary is mostly "Why does water seem to be such a problem in diesel applications, whereas we don't even think about it in gasoline applications?"

The internets tell me both gas and diesel are not miscible with water, however ethanol is. It may be a "how miscible" issue. Does the water play friendly or not?

It sounds, from my armchair research, that it does not play well with diesel:


Originally Posted by some random site
Why is water in fuel so bad? Water causes three main problems: a) it absolutely refuses to burn, b) it reduces the lubricity of diesel fuel, lessening its natural, slippery powers of lubrication and causing wear and tear inside fuel system parts, c) it provides an environment for all types of organic growth.


DaveC 10-16-2013 09:06 PM

Sorry to be the pinhead in the group, but why is weight compensation critical for a submarine when it's at the surface? They don't run the diesels when submerged, do they?

I admit it: I only kinda skimmed the linked article....

flying_solo 10-16-2013 09:09 PM

Didn't you ever play silent service for Nintendo! The subs I know about had a snorkel for running the diesels underwater.

flying_solo 10-16-2013 09:11 PM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_snorkel

Joe Perez 10-16-2013 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by DaveC (Post 1063744)
Sorry to be the pinhead in the group, but why is weight compensation critical for a submarine when it's at the surface? They don't run the diesels when submerged, do they?

Putting aside the snorkel question for a moment, since it clouds the issue rather than clearing it...


It's not critical when the sub is surfaced. But it is critical if the sub ever wishes to dive. Quite simply, the total capacity of the fuel tanks is greater than the total capacity of the ballast tanks.


Hypothetically, let's assume that the sub is neutrally buoyant when the fuel tanks are 100% full and the ballast tanks are 75% full. (I'm pulling these numbers out of the air, but I think they're close to accurate.)

If you were to empty the fuel tanks to 50% full (half fuel, half air), then it would become impossible for the sub to dive- even with the ballast tanks completely flooded, the air in the fuel tanks would keep it positively buoyant.

FRT_Fun 10-16-2013 11:39 PM

I added an online class to the B session of this term and it has this discussion board where students have to respond to various things. The spelling and grammar used by the majority of the students on the discussion board is horrifying. These discussions are supposed to be graded, and I really hope that the professor is docking points for these ass-hats that can't be bothered to write at least with marginal effort. I'm far from perfect, but if I see a word is underlined in red I have the common decency to right click and fix it, and I re-read what I wrote at least once before submitting it.

Although this is nothing compared to what I see in class. These stupid kids behind me in my Java class talk the whole time, then ask questions or loudly act confused about things that were just covered a few minutes prior. Then they complain about how hard the quizzes are.

We really are heading towards national idiocy.

dieselmiata 10-16-2013 11:48 PM

I'm fortunate in that I go to night school near the Navy base, so the majority of people in my classes are older and relatively well educated. We do have several students in every class though that convince me the world is going to shit. The online discussions usually look like some of this sites more famous noob postings.

Hy guyz i dont get y techer makes us do homwrk thats 4 hischool ys it so hard ipay 4 classsz so shud get gud grayd.

It really makes me cringe when I read a paper that contains "LOL". :vash:

FRT_Fun 10-16-2013 11:59 PM

I just read one, the girl wrote "nessisary". Fucking really?


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