What a bitch...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 223111)
and the consensus over there will be you are smart to worry.....
(I hope they read this.. Losers.) All I know is if I had a 1.6 car I'd abuse it even more than I do the 1.8, cause I know of at least 10 motors around that I could pickup for next to nothing... |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 222827)
btw, when i first read your title i thought you were talking about me :gay:
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 223405)
:jerkit::bang: Thats because m.neters are tarded. ;)
(I hope they read this.. Losers.) All I know is if I had a 1.6 car I'd abuse it even more than I do the 1.8, cause I know of at least 10 motors around that I could pickup for next to nothing... exactly, one of the great things about the miata is cheap parts, blow a motor, nothin major for a 1.6 $500 max and you're bouncing of the rev limit all over again. |
Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
(Post 223013)
i feel your pain sam, i hardly ever take my car up to redline because it stops making power before then and because the transmission sounds like its gonna go all grenade next to my thigh. It does feel a lot more comfortable taking the 240 to redline even though it stops making power WWAAAYYYY before then, probably because it sounds better doing it?
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Sam...I'm with ya on this.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty dildo and the sounds isn't very comforting. My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious. |
Originally Posted by Exhondaman
(Post 223427)
Sam...I'm with ya on this.
It's not that the engine can't take the abuse, to me, it just seems un-natural in the upper rev ranges. It vibrates like a Hello Kitty dildo and the sounds isn't very comforting. My hundah b16 engine with Jun cams made power to 9k and it was pure music when vtec kicked in at 7100rpms. With the miata motors, it the equivalent to a drunk choir trying to sing in accapella. Not very harmonious. |
what about the s2000 elesjuan???
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 223493)
Sadly I have to disagree with you here.. I've yet to ever in my life hear a honda engine that wasn't in an NSX, Formula 1 car, or my lawnmower that didn't (to me) sound like complete and total fucking garbage at ANY rpm. Maybe the grunt from the intake is an okay sound, but there seems no possible way to get rid of that humming buzzing drone that comes from the exhaust that makes me want to end myself. :crx: Thats just my opinion, though. :)
Keep in mind also that most of the B-series vtec motors were MADE to rev with almost ideal rod/stroke ratios. The miatas motors (designed for turbo applications) doesn't even have a number remotely close to ideal, and quite frankly, it screams and vibrates in pain at substained high revs. |
mine had a quiet exhaust, and it sounded good,
check it out http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...h_VID00033.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...h_VID00035.jpg i had a ball with that thing the camera car is a b16 civic, i/h/e clutch flywheel and other crap ran a 15 flat or so at the track |
Lack of balance shafts could have something to do with the buzziness of the miata motor no?
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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
(Post 223519)
what about the s2000 elesjuan???
Originally Posted by Exhondaman
(Post 223529)
Hey, thats your opinion indeed.
Keep in mind also that most of the B-series vtec motors were MADE to rev with almost ideal rod/stroke ratios. The miatas motors (designed for turbo applications) doesn't even have a number remotely close to ideal, and quite frankly, it screams and vibrates in pain at substained high revs.
Originally Posted by urgaynknowit
(Post 223532)
mine had a quiet exhaust, and it sounded good,
check it out *snip* i had a ball with that thing the camera car is a b16 civic, i/h/e clutch flywheel and other crap ran a 15 flat or so at the track Actually now that I think about it, a local high power turbo guys honda doesn't sound too terrible..
Originally Posted by Bryce
(Post 223534)
Lack of balance shafts could have something to do with the buzziness of the miata motor no?
I've heard 1.6s buzz really badly, but I've never noticed a 1.8 buzz?? |
It's good to redline it every once in a while. Breaks up the carbon build up. I think I hit the rev-limiter more now that I'm turbo, it revs so fast it catches me of guard.
Don't be a wuss, rev that sh*t out. |
i hit rev limiter for like 20 seconds to half a minute sometimes... in both my miata and 350z except that rev limiter on 2nd gear on 350z is pretty scary thing...
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I love the way the engine sounds as it revs higher with the turbo spinning faster. I can still enjoy a drive with no music, just the engine making noise. The week I put in my turbo all i did was listen for the spool....and anything breaking.
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it's a rare day I drive my car and dont hit the limiter in 1st.
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
(Post 223925)
i hit rev limiter for like 20 seconds to half a minute sometimes... in both my miata and 350z except that rev limiter on 2nd gear on 350z is pretty scary thing...
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I missed a shift in my Talon once. Logger showed 10,5xx RPMs. Didn't do any damage (that I ever knew about). We used to raise our rev limit to 8500 without any internal engine mods.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first? EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift. |
I think that na Miatas sound scary when you rev 2 red. But turbo Miatas sound so much better. Im pretty sure I do it every day.
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Originally Posted by jwarriner
(Post 224037)
I missed a shift in my Talon once. Logger showed 10,5xx RPMs. Didn't do any damage (that I ever knew about). We used to raise our rev limit to 8500 without any internal engine mods.
Anyone ever break a Miata simply from revving too high? What broke first? EDIT: When I say "missed a shift" I mean I downshifted where I wanted to upshift. |
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