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#3101
Seriously unimpressed with the whole tubeless deal so far. Rear tire dropped from 40psi on Thursday night to 20psi tonight, so it's leaking from somewhere. Front tire lost 20psi overnight, so I made a second attempt tonight with Stan's rim tape instead of Velox, ran it up to 60psi, and it completely deflated inside of 2 hours. I guess I assumed that it would be a lot easier than this since the rim and tire are both specifically tubeless compatible. Not quite ready to give up, but I'm getting close.
I'd never run tubeless on a road bike... I've flatted a road bike like 3 times in my life. It's only worth it if you're going off road in my opinion.
#3102
Have you pinpointed the leak source?
Also, did you ride on the tires at all after you set them up?
Something is astray in your setup for that to happen. Stans tape needs rim bed to be spotless clean, and it needs to be stretched tight on the rim bed. A light heat-gun to help the adhesive tack to the ano surface helps.
Typically I find that the wheels need to be rode almost immediately to seal up. It flexes the casing and helps the sealant fill all the micro pores in the tire casing. Tubeless compatibility is all in the bead design of a tire, not necessarily an air-tight sidewall. Next time do a few laps around the block after airing them up.
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Also, did you ride on the tires at all after you set them up?
Something is astray in your setup for that to happen. Stans tape needs rim bed to be spotless clean, and it needs to be stretched tight on the rim bed. A light heat-gun to help the adhesive tack to the ano surface helps.
Typically I find that the wheels need to be rode almost immediately to seal up. It flexes the casing and helps the sealant fill all the micro pores in the tire casing. Tubeless compatibility is all in the bead design of a tire, not necessarily an air-tight sidewall. Next time do a few laps around the block after airing them up.
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Andrew,
Ride it around within a few minutes at max psi. I typically ride a few circles leaning the bike over hard with a foot clipped out, to load the sidewalls and bead. Turn both directions. Don' skimp on sealant, use at least the recommended amount. Re-inflate to max psi and let stand overnight. I almost never have tires not sealed after the first try. The sealant dries out after 6-12 months, depending on environment. Check very 6 mos or so. Add sealant if they're dry.
Before tubeless, the fastest, best performing bicycle tires were glued on tubulars. Now that's an unholy mess and PITA. Takes 3 days (not joking) to properly mount a set of tubulars.
You might not say that after riding road tubeless. They roll faster, grip better, ride better, weigh less. That they're near impossible to flat is a just a bonus.
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Aha. I didn't ride it at all, just inflated the tires and left them overnight to check. I'll pull both tires, clean everything, use more sealant, and ride the bike around after mounting them tonight.
#3105
Took the kids out to Sea Otter this weekend, when I wasn't marshalling at the dual slalom. The 8 y/o worked on her MTB skills a little, she just learned to ride without training wheels a month ago so she's progressing right along. The 4 y/o spent most of her time winning a new bike in an Easter egg hunt (no ****) and looking casually deliberate and as hors as you can look with training wheels. Donut for messing with a her.
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Tubeless strike 2. Stan's sealant plugged up the valve core on the tire that completely deflated. Replaced it and I can't get the tire to seat with the floor pump. Used a CO2 with the core out and got the tire to seat, and it immediately un-seated itself while I was trying to get the core back in.
Maybe I'm just naive, but when I put a tubeless tire on a tubeless-compatible rim with a $65 tubeless kit, I shouldn't end the evening pissed off with a garage floor full of latex sealant. Tomorrow when I'm less prone to throwing things across the garage, I'll clean everything and make one more attempt, and if that fails I'm selling the tires and dumping the idea. I want to ride the bike, not **** around with it endlessly.
Maybe I'm just naive, but when I put a tubeless tire on a tubeless-compatible rim with a $65 tubeless kit, I shouldn't end the evening pissed off with a garage floor full of latex sealant. Tomorrow when I'm less prone to throwing things across the garage, I'll clean everything and make one more attempt, and if that fails I'm selling the tires and dumping the idea. I want to ride the bike, not **** around with it endlessly.
#3109
Tubeless strike 2. Stan's sealant plugged up the valve core on the tire that completely deflated. Replaced it and I can't get the tire to seat with the floor pump. Used a CO2 with the core out and got the tire to seat, and it immediately un-seated itself while I was trying to get the core back in.
Maybe I'm just naive, but when I put a tubeless tire on a tubeless-compatible rim with a $65 tubeless kit, I shouldn't end the evening pissed off with a garage floor full of latex sealant. Tomorrow when I'm less prone to throwing things across the garage, I'll clean everything and make one more attempt, and if that fails I'm selling the tires and dumping the idea. I want to ride the bike, not **** around with it endlessly.
Maybe I'm just naive, but when I put a tubeless tire on a tubeless-compatible rim with a $65 tubeless kit, I shouldn't end the evening pissed off with a garage floor full of latex sealant. Tomorrow when I'm less prone to throwing things across the garage, I'll clean everything and make one more attempt, and if that fails I'm selling the tires and dumping the idea. I want to ride the bike, not **** around with it endlessly.
I feel for you... tubeless sucks until the tire is on.
By the way- you can make an inflater for super cheap and they work awesome: Joe Barnes' DIY Coke Bottle Tubeless Compressor Hack - The Hub - Mountain Biking Forums / Message Boards - Vital MTB
I made mine with a 2-liter coke bottle, tubeless valves and some vacuum hose.
#3110
Andrew,
Compressed air is your friend here. And lol at setting up tubeless indoors. You can either tippy toe, treat it like a surgical procedure indoors and not spill anything or the slap them all together quickly out in the parking lot and not worry about the mess. Once they have been seated and sealed once, they re-inflate and seat more readily. Sometimes a new tubeless setup that requires compressed air to seat will reseat with a minipump once it's been ridden tubeless for a while. Sometimes. Meanwhile, I carry the normal flat repair stuff: mini pump/CO2/lever/patch kit/boot/tube. In about 20 years of riding tubeless, I've had maybe one flat I think.
Compressed air is your friend here. And lol at setting up tubeless indoors. You can either tippy toe, treat it like a surgical procedure indoors and not spill anything or the slap them all together quickly out in the parking lot and not worry about the mess. Once they have been seated and sealed once, they re-inflate and seat more readily. Sometimes a new tubeless setup that requires compressed air to seat will reseat with a minipump once it's been ridden tubeless for a while. Sometimes. Meanwhile, I carry the normal flat repair stuff: mini pump/CO2/lever/patch kit/boot/tube. In about 20 years of riding tubeless, I've had maybe one flat I think.
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tire struggles.
IDK why, but i was having issues with intalling mine last week too, though not tubeless.
I put new michelin pro4 service course tires on my mavic wheels and the tubes were really giving me a time not wanting to stay in the tire and wanting to pinch between the bead and the rim. even lowly inflated the tubes just wanted to grab the brake track.
one tube must have been twisted once i had the setup together too, because the tube blew a hole in itself mid install of the other tire.
Reminds me i need to get a new tube for a spare.
IDK why, but i was having issues with intalling mine last week too, though not tubeless.
I put new michelin pro4 service course tires on my mavic wheels and the tubes were really giving me a time not wanting to stay in the tire and wanting to pinch between the bead and the rim. even lowly inflated the tubes just wanted to grab the brake track.
one tube must have been twisted once i had the setup together too, because the tube blew a hole in itself mid install of the other tire.
Reminds me i need to get a new tube for a spare.
#3112
I feel for you... tubeless sucks until the tire is on.
By the way- you can make an inflater for super cheap and they work awesome: Joe Barnes' DIY Coke Bottle Tubeless Compressor Hack - The Hub - Mountain Biking Forums / Message Boards - Vital MTB
I made mine with a 2-liter coke bottle, tubeless valves and some vacuum hose.
By the way- you can make an inflater for super cheap and they work awesome: Joe Barnes' DIY Coke Bottle Tubeless Compressor Hack - The Hub - Mountain Biking Forums / Message Boards - Vital MTB
I made mine with a 2-liter coke bottle, tubeless valves and some vacuum hose.
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#3115
Road tubeless, about 3 years. Bought a set of 700x23 Hutchinson tubeless for my non tubeless compatible wheels and could never get them to stay seated and high pressure so I gave up. Kept the tires figuring the market would see more tubeless compatible road wheels soon. That time has come but now I want discs on my road bike so the S5 might go up for sale.
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I went out today with my 3 year old son on his glider bike.. He is just starting to "glide" on it as opposed just walking while holding the bars. I'm hoping he can transition from this bike in a year or so straight onto a pedal bike with no training wheels. Gotta start them early. I once saw a 4 year old on a glider at the local MTB trail and he was absolutely killing it.