emilio700

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My but you became an elitist roadie snob quicker than I would have predicted.
Bicycles are magical devices, regardless of how they are used or configured.

alléger mon frère

Savington

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If a thing is worth doing, it's worth doing properly

hustler

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Just look at these useless road bikes:

It's a shame these guys can't fill their bicycles with Birkenstocks and their celibacy journals.

Leafy

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Ugh, they're even wearing those *** shorts.

hustler

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I cannot be a road snob on my poverty frame, it's impossible. Additionally, suggesting that road bikes are somewhat inferior machines when compared to the people's Citibike is equally absurd and offensive to the holy road bike.

hustler

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If only those sexual miscreants had a basket to stow their phallic devices and Salmon Rushdie writings, the world would burn.

Savington

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They serve a purpose, unlike your posts.

Joe Perez

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That's kind of what I thought when I went back and re-read Hustler's very first post when he started this thread:







True dat. Why da roadies be hatin'?

Leafy

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They get emasculated when you pass them in their ultra low drag cloths and 12 pound bikes with your slacks, hawaiian shirt, and 60 pound bike.

hustler

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BUSTED!!!

lol

However, I still don't believe I need to spend several thousand dollars for disk brakes on a road bike (not a commuter, not a snow bike, not a unicycle).

hustler

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You are so concerned with men wearing spandex. Start with "just the tip", you deserve it.

Savington

iTrader: (31)

I'm not the one who wrote a several-hundred word post disparaging cycling for hobby/fun/sport

Joe Perez

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See, this is where I get lost.

I don't understand why it needs to cost several thousand dollars to put disc brakes on a road bike. My Giant Revel came with disc brakes, and it cost less than $500.

Doing a little comparative shopping on Nashbar, you can buy a complete front & rear disc brake package (calipers, discs, levers) for $85: Nashbar Mechanical Disc Brake Set - Bike Disc Brakes

This is almost exactly the same as a rim brake set of comparable quality from the same vendor: Nashbar - Bike Rim Brakes



In other news, Jerseybike the $95 Walmart Wonder was stolen today, while parked outside Hoboken terminal. I blame myself for having secured it with a cheap Bell brand cable lock, despite having a high-end Kryoptonite U-lock sitting right here on the floor.




RIP Jerseybike, Sep 2013 - Nov 2013.




I guess now I need to get off my *** and finish the Shitibike build, which has been sitting here in my living room for weeks.

Leafy

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Because hustler must spend the extra $1725 on having them be 2oz lighter.

Savington

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Rim brakes are lighter than current-tech disc brakes and will lock the rear wheel and/or pull it off the ground, depending on which lever I squeeze. Hustler and I are not descending mountains at 80kph like the pros are, so we have no need for increased fade resistance for the 60-65kph we obtain on rare occasion.

If you want cable discs on your commuter bike, go buy them. Just don't try and convince me that they're better in any way than what I have for my use.

Joe Perez

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I'm not trying to convince you (or anyone else) of anything.

I am merely stating the obvious fact that for a commuter bike, disc brakes have numerous advantages over rim brakes. Ease of maintenance, highly predictable and linear behavior, and complete imperviousness to water.

hustler

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I'm not going to put mountain bike levers on a road bike, the frame and fork aren't cheap, and supposedly themotion ratio is different on rim vs road levers.

hustler

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I have a super-cheap Chinese frame, I ride on aluminum wheels, I have Shimano 105 components all meaning I spent very little money. I might have just over $1750 in the bicycle in total.

You already posted a few pages back that road bikes are "just pipes welded together", you think that road bikes should be as heavy and slow as possible, and you think disc brake son a bike do not require additional engineering other than "glue a couple threaded bungs". Stop posting. The worst part about moderating forums is the inability to put people like you on my ignore list.

Joe Perez

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I'm not sure what you mean by "rim vs road levers." Did you mean "rim vs. disc levers?"

On all the bikes that I have worked on, the levers are freely interchangeable between linear-pull rim brakes and and disc brakes. I assume this would also hold true for other rim brake styles, though I've not had to deal with older designs such as cantilever brakes in quite a long time.

On e-bikes, we always install brake levers which incorporate an electrical switch contact to shut off the motor when the brakes are applied. It's a safety feature in case of throttle failure. I use the exact same levers on bikes with rim brakes as well as with my one bike with disc brakes, using Tektro Novela calipers.

Hydro brakes are obviously a different ball game, and I do NOT endorse that level of silliness on any daily-driver bike, be it an MTB, a hybrid, a roadie, or anything else. Cable brakes were good enough for my Nighthawk 250, and they're fine for my bicycle.


edit: I mention e-bikes only to illustrate the context of my experience in interchanging brake levers.

hustler

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Sorry, rim vs disc. Shimano claims there's a different motion ratio, I believe you over them.