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Old 01-13-2015, 12:16 PM   #61
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Out of curiosity, are all you track guys buying track day insurance? [Complete track noob here]

It occurs to me that maybe a guy could afford a GT-R as a daily driver, where he is protected against loss, but not afford to track it, where he may not be protected against loss.
There are some providers for it, but there are usually only certain events they will cover. And typically with a $5k deductible on top of your daily fee.
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I'm with leboeuf. The time to spend > $50k on a toy car is long after the mortgage is paid off and my retirement is fully funded. I'm not going to work until I die like so many old people I know. I'm going to quit when I want to stop and will be very comfortable in retirement.
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:52 PM   #63
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Ed/Steve, this is gonna blow your mind, but some of us do not enjoy the track like others. And not because it's expensive, or because we're not good at it (even though both those things are true). Crazy, I know.
That wasn't at all part of my point. The point is, the GTR is an awe-inspiring car on the trac , and a bumpy hazard on the street.

Again I don't speak from experience but look at what others are saying.

I'm not saying you need to go to the track to have fun, but I am saying that if you buy a GTR and don't track it that it seems you're missing the point and purpose of the car.
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That part I think we all agree on
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:18 PM   #65
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Vlad, I'm wondering if you ever tried a track day. I totally get it's not for everyone. My girls have less than 0 interest for example.
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Not to threadjack too much but...

I can see a couple reasons why you might track a car.

First is to become a good race car driver. The proper vehicle to me would be something vanilla that is cheap to buy, cheap to fix and replace, and cheap to maintain. Less money equals more reps.

Next is to learn how better to drive the car you drive every day. This is where it gets hairy because in order to do track days and really improve you need to have proper safety equipment and things get expensive, especially if you are going 9/10 and wreck. This is where I sit today and why I mostly stick to autocross where I continue to be slow. (and sad)

Last, is just to see what your car will do. In this case, buy whatever the damn well you please because you will likely be doing one or maybe two track events in the life of your car.

It seems to me that Vash fits into category 3. Aside from the financial jeopardy he may be putting himself in I say do what makes you happy.
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Old 01-13-2015, 04:10 PM   #67
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Holy crap my response came late. lol.

^curious to hear the result of the above conversation.

People kept asking me if I was going to buy a new Miata after my last one got wrecked. I could easily afford payments on a new one, but can't truly AFFORD a new one as stated above. Finite budget and all that
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:46 PM   #68
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Agree with above about saving money and being responsible etc. but if I had $100k to drop on a new car, here's my answer:

Not because ridiculously fast (it kind of is), but because noise, panache, style, and comfort. You could of course get a cheaper F Type and save some money while still enjoying amazing power, sound, style etc.

A few year old QuattroPortes are getting cheap too. GTR is just too boy racer techno-geek for me, not enough real interest.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:47 PM   #69
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After seeing a few recent ones in person, I will agree with Sam about Maseratis. They have an incredible understated presence in the flesh.
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I think really what it comes down to for me is that I can't comprehend spending $100k on a car. I don't care how cool it is, how great it is, how special it is. Even if I had tons and tons of money, $100k on something that could be wiped out by some asshat in a Toyota at any moment just seems stupid.

All these cars are amazing, they're fast, beautiful, powerful... But I see that F type and I feel like you get 90% of that with the new Mustang GT. I see the GT-R and you get a good portion of that in a new Golf R (NOT THE LAST GOLF R. THE NEW ONE... 300hp...) or STi. I see the Corvette and... Oh, wait, the Corvette is awesome and fairly reasonably priced.

There are too many awesome cars for $50k or less... I can't see how $100k could ever make sense to me.

Yes, this is me. No, it's not you. But you asked if I would. So, No.
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Well, there is the part about "if you could afford it". I take that to mean you won a lottery and have millions. Plenty to live on, and you're not going to go broke if it gets totaled.

Other than that, I tend to agree with you. I see products all the time that are way out of line in price, yet people are buying them. $10 grand for a freaking watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (much) better than the $80 Seiko I wear. So it's all about those people with way too much money being snobs.

Those people should be killed and eaten.
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Well, there is the part about "if you could afford it". I take that to mean you won a lottery and have millions. Plenty to live on, and you're not going to go broke if it gets totaled.

Other than that, I tend to agree with you. I see products all the time that are way out of line in price, yet people are buying them. $10 grand for a freaking watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (much) better than the $80 Seiko I wear. So it's all about those people with way too much money being snobs.

Those people should be killed and eaten.
$80 for a freaking Seiko watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (much) better than the $20 Timex I wear.
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$80 for a freaking Seiko watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (much) better than the $20 Timex I wear.
$20 for an unecessary watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (worse?) better than the phone I already carry around everywhere with me.
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phone? are you serious? carrier pidgeons are like $5 a pop
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$80 for a freaking Seiko watch? All it does is tell time, and it can't do that any (much) better than the $20 Timex I wear.
Okay, I probably deserved that.
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And since we're on the financial topic:

Vash,
Can you "afford to make payments" on a GTR, or can you actually "afford" a GTR?
This is an important distinction. You'll be taking a GT-R to the dealership for almost every service, which is $$$$$$$$.

I was in a similar position, with similar goals (DD, mostly stock, no track time). My shortlist ended up being: GT-R, IS-F, C6 Z06. Ended up with the IS-F because it was the most practical, the cheapest, I could do all of the maintenance myself, and it was fast enough to get me to the sex dungeon across town.

Plus the Yamaha V8 sounds glorious once you uncork it.
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Short answer to post #1: No.

My reasoning echoes many others in here about the styling and it just seeming like a boring, "numbers game" car. No, I have not driven one, but I also don't care to. I'd rather have something I can drive, not that does all of the driving for me, also meaning a car with 3 pedals.
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When I heard an IS-F with the V10 revving out with a slightly raspy aftermarket exhaust I didn't have a good way to explain the sound until now. Sex dungeon. That's it. And those Maseratis do sound really good with those Ferrari engines.
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This thread should be renamed miataturbo tells how you must live.

Seriously though, keeping the financial picture out of it, to me there is only one way I know if I should buy a hot car. Do I really really want it? Do I get that feeling every time I am looking at it or driving it?

Only you can answer those questions. I personally have no strong desire to own a GTR. But who cares what I think, it is your car.
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When I heard an IS-F with the V10 revving out with a slightly raspy aftermarket exhaust I didn't have a good way to explain the sound until now. Sex dungeon. That's it. And those Maseratis do sound really good with those Ferrari engines.
IS-F has a V8, LF-A has a V10.
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