If you were forced to buy a family car with GOOD GAS MILEAGE... what would you get?
Not sure about the "next gen" but my dad got a 2009 focus about 2 months ago and it was THE BIGGEST PIECE OF **** CAR I HAVE DRIVEN EVER.
That is not an exaggeration.
He got rid of it exactly 6 weeks after buying it. We were all shocked at how shitty it was, despite being fully loaded (moon roof, 16 rims, bluetooth, etc etc). Horrible gas mileage, the most disconnected and shitty feeling steering brakes, and an auto transmission so bad it would make a 1970's 3 speed look good.
I would not recommend that car to my worst enemy.
He got it cheap and thought he had a deal, til he tried to sell it just a few weeks later and barely sold it cause no one wants em.
That is not an exaggeration.
He got rid of it exactly 6 weeks after buying it. We were all shocked at how shitty it was, despite being fully loaded (moon roof, 16 rims, bluetooth, etc etc). Horrible gas mileage, the most disconnected and shitty feeling steering brakes, and an auto transmission so bad it would make a 1970's 3 speed look good.
I would not recommend that car to my worst enemy.
He got it cheap and thought he had a deal, til he tried to sell it just a few weeks later and barely sold it cause no one wants em.
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More suggestions.
New Golf TDI. Don't know how roomy the back seat or "trunk" is but it's 25k new, rated at 31/40 mpg and it hasn't been cheapened up like the new Jetta.
Used Jetta Sportwagon (already suggested). You don't want the new one that is all crapified and cheap. Get a 2010 with low miles, bigger and more spacious than Golf TDi, same engine, similar mileage.
New Golf TDI. Don't know how roomy the back seat or "trunk" is but it's 25k new, rated at 31/40 mpg and it hasn't been cheapened up like the new Jetta.
Used Jetta Sportwagon (already suggested). You don't want the new one that is all crapified and cheap. Get a 2010 with low miles, bigger and more spacious than Golf TDi, same engine, similar mileage.
The new sedan platforms are indeed shittastic. VW sold it's soul and went the Toyota route.
-Zach
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Fitting those criteria? nothing, because it would cost more than I'd ever spend. My closest choice would be a first gen Scion xB. wont meet your warranty or mileage requirements, but it would be close.
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umm let's say yes. highway 35mpg.
I'm also going to throw in the Ford Fusion Hybrid. Fully loaded, brand new it's $33k and get's 39-41MPG. Also had several Fusions for rental cars (base and the SE V6) and they've been very plush, roomy cars. They feel bigger than the Sonata and don't get quite as good of MPGs (for petrol versions), but overall it's a nice car. The SE V6 with some nice options goes for $27k and gets ~25-30mpg.
Checked used pricing and low mile ones (well under 10k), 2010 models...low $20k's. Not bad.
Checked used pricing and low mile ones (well under 10k), 2010 models...low $20k's. Not bad.
the audi a3 is pretty too. quattro isn't a necessity and probably would just cut into the mpg, price, and power to weight factors.
Scion XB is interesting--basically a corolla in a box.
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Scion XB has tons of room and brand new are cheap and the new Honda accord V6 hauls *** and is super comfy with a trunk like an old Lincoln and more room in the back than you could imagine. My dad has one and it is an amazing car. It is the same car as the TL just different panels.
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the new jetta SEL is hella cheap... $23K new, 33mpg hwy.
170hp at 3000lbs, within your power ratio.
http://www.vw.com/en/models/jetta/features_and_specs.s9_trimlevel_detail.suffix.html/2011_jetta~2Fsel.html#/tab=fa1028f8a1a53ace1e11111323084711
170hp at 3000lbs, within your power ratio.
http://www.vw.com/en/models/jetta/features_and_specs.s9_trimlevel_detail.suffix.html/2011_jetta~2Fsel.html#/tab=fa1028f8a1a53ace1e11111323084711
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Apparently the Acura website is confusing.
2011 TSX 6-speed Manual @ $29,610 has the base 2.4 engine (201hp). Rated 21/29 mpg
2011 TSX V6 is $35,150 and is only available w/ 5sp Sequential SportShift w/ paddle shifters. V6 is (3.5L, 280hp) rated 19/28 mpg.
Check the site again if you don't believe me.
2011 TSX 6-speed Manual @ $29,610 has the base 2.4 engine (201hp). Rated 21/29 mpg
2011 TSX V6 is $35,150 and is only available w/ 5sp Sequential SportShift w/ paddle shifters. V6 is (3.5L, 280hp) rated 19/28 mpg.
Check the site again if you don't believe me.
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who said my wife had anything to do with the requirements? she'd probably want a MINI Clubman if the rear doors were actual doors.
That's the focus I'm talking about. If the US one is again based on the euro spec focus, it might be a really good car.
OK also I was just looking at the MINI site...
WTF is a MINI Cooper S Countryman All4?! Besides a mouthful.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
It wont be out tell' the 2012 model year, but the Focus ST looks pretty good, dont know if it meets all the requirments yet since it's not out and hasen't been reviewed in US spec form.
That's the focus I'm talking about. If the US one is again based on the euro spec focus, it might be a really good car.
OK also I was just looking at the MINI site...
WTF is a MINI Cooper S Countryman All4?! Besides a mouthful.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
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G8's and G6's have nothing in common with one another. If you can drive a V8 G8, I'm sure you will be impressed.
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