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Old 11-14-2008, 12:17 PM   #21
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:33 PM   #22
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Wife, girlfriend, random chick you're trying to nail, whatever. The gun range makes a great venue for a date, especially if she’s never been shooting before. I’ve found that if a girl is open to the idea of shooting - and she’s inexperienced - she will quite possibly get very excited by the sense of power/danger. Plus, you get to teach her something, making you appear ultra-badass. And finally, they get a rush of positive emotion if they learn that they’re a decent shot. All those things added together make her easier to bang. DHV, just ask Mystery.
Well said. Chicks love big explosive things in their hands. I've also noticed that both my gf and daughter are great shots. They don't like the larger calibers but with a 9mm or smaller they nail the black all day long. Now I personally wouldn't depend on a 9mm for cqc stuff but the most important thing is that they be comfortable using the firearm. When the **** hits the fan and the tunnel vision kicks in the only thing pulling that trigger is muscle memory and training, training, training.

btw, the pistol is only good for one thing, keeping the intruder at bay until you can get to your rifle/shotgun.
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btw, the pistol is only good for one thing, keeping the intruder at bay until you can get to your rifle/shotgun.
Jesus, what kind of intruders do you have breaking in to your house? Buffalo?

That being said, I picked up a Walther P22 today for the girlfriend. Figured it would be a reliable, cheap little range gun.
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:28 PM   #24
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Jesus, what kind of intruders do you have breaking in to your house? Buffalo?

That being said, I picked up a Walther P22 today for the girlfriend. Figured it would be a reliable, cheap little range gun.
Nah, no buffalo, zombies and communists.

that P22 takes very kindly to a suppressor. .22 is fun shooting suppressed, can barely hear it. About the only thing you hear is the bolt.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:28 PM   #25
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After the shotgun, I recommend one of the Smith and Wesson revolvers. To repeat what others have said, if there is a misfire or malfunction, you just pull the trigger again vs attempting to clear the weapon.

The revolver capacity ranges from 5 rounds to 8 rounds of ammo in the cylinder. If you ever think you'll go concealed carry, choose the 5 shot model 638 or 642 in .38 Special +P. If only for the home, the Night Guard series can be purchased with the 5, 6, 7, or 8-shot cylinder. Get the .357 Mag but load it with .38 Special frangible bullets for in the home.

The trigger action on the revolvers is significantly heavier than the double-action/single-action semi-automatics. If it is too heavy for your gal to pull the trigger easily, replace the stock S&W 18# trigger rebound spring with a 13# Wolff spring.

When practicing, never shoot the same number of rounds each time (or you train yourself to stop shooting after a set number of shots). Load for each other using anywhere from one round to full capacity. Occasionally put a dummy round in the load to force a misfire clearing procedure. After that, learn to shoot off-hand with *no* use of your dominant hand. If your dominant hand is injured and you cannot use it, how do you:
- lock and load?
- change magazines?
- clear a jam?

Hope this helps.

LBader, did you get the recall notice on the Ruger LCP? If not, go to the Ruger site and sign up so they can modify the hammer mechanism free of charge.

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Just don't accidentally answer the .357 in the middle of the night.
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Oh btw buy an assualt rifle of some sorts before they get banned...might be worth some money once its a no no
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:27 AM   #27
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The last time someone broke into my house in college, it was nice to have the sawed-off pistol grip moss 500 semi-auto.
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The last time someone broke into my house in college, it was nice to have the sawed-off pistol grip moss 500 semi-auto.
No such thing as a Mossberg 500 semi-auto there dude. Sawed off shotgun barrel less than 18" is a felony unless it's a NFA weapon.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:53 AM   #29
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My gf says she likes the XD40 I have because it fits in her hand better than the 45...since the 9MM is built on the same frame...might want to give that a shot. Also I like the CZ-82/3 since they are cheap to buy and maintain...also might want to think about a Sig...right now on sale...can buy a mosquito for about $350 out the door new.
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Heck, get a CZ52. Only $150 and shoots the potent 7.62x25 round. I've heard of some quality issues with the Mosquito, something that you would not normally associate with a Sig.
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I've not heard anything good about the mosquito.
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This thread needs a little excitement.

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No such thing as a Mossberg 500 semi-auto there dude. Sawed off shotgun barrel less than 18" is a felony unless it's a NFA weapon.
oops. I have a 24" 500, and the 935 is the sawed off...I think. ****, I can't remember. I remember that the barrel was cut to 18" though, so its legal.
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Well....went to the range this weekend and there was a 2-3 hour wait for the 15 bay range with all bays active so needless to say didn't wait around. I've never seen it that busy so I guess people are in a rush to get stuff before any more restrictions come down...
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Well....went to the range this weekend and there was a 2-3 hour wait for the 15 bay range with all bays active so needless to say didn't wait around. I've never seen it that busy so I guess people are in a rush to get stuff before any more restrictions come down...
gun sales are nuts right now. Prices are through the roof already.
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gun sales are nuts right now. Prices are through the roof already.
i got a 1939 Mosin Nagant with matching #'s yesterday for $129, so they aren't TOO bad yet.

I'd either get a walther PPK (if your hand fits in it) or a Taurus
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I've not heard anything good about the mosquito.
I held one the other day while I was getting the P22 for my girlfriend, just out of curiousity. I have to say its a bulky piece and seems like crap. Guy at the gunshop didn't really recommend it either.
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Get a 38/357 revolver and practice both dry and live fire. Take lessons, partake in IPSC/USPSA/IDPA type activities.

Semi-auto is great when conditions are good and you have your wits. They don't work great when limp wristing with your weak hand (I expect some good commentary on this one) while possibly fighting/blocking with your other hand.

CHOOSE YOUR AMMO WISELY! If you live 5 miles from your nearest neighbor don't worry about it but if you live in suburbia you want to contain every round in your dwelling. It would be bad enough to have to shoot someone in your house, but then to kill your neighbor, get convicted of manslaughter and be sued.... just choose the right ammo for the job.

The idea that someone is taking into account that there is going to be a lot of missed shots is disturbing. First practice marksmanship then practice practical shooting which includes: strong hand only, weak hand only, standing, kneeling, prone... Also practice shooting over, under and to the sides of things.

Sorry for being so preachy. My excuse is that I shot competition for years then transitioned into instruction. Even had a gig setting up a training day for the local SWAT. USPSA open-M limited-M, NRA certified instructor.
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I am a pretty decent shot. Not fantastic, but certainly not bad. I am not a naturally good shot; I've had to work on it. I go to the range at minimum 1 time per month and go through minimum 150 rounds, though usually more. I shoot from the right, from the left, and with 2 hands and with 1. I practice at different distances, and when the range is empty, I practice drawing, moving in different directions, hiding behind barriers, squatting, etc etc. I shoot slow, I double tap, I shoot fast, I aim for the 10 ring, I then go for the 9's at the top and bottom of the 9 ring. I then go for center head between the eyes. With my 22, I practice both using the sites and the laser. I do what I can.

I am not a stone cold bad *** warrior. I am an average guy with an average gun. I am not combat trained or tested. With my 22 I can keep 15 rounds in 3" at 25' at the range shooting at paper. Shooting a bad guy is not shooting paper. Statistics show that the average guy like me hits 50% or less of his shots in a real world situation.

I don't plan on missing. But I'm not foolish. I also know that 1 shot kills are not to be expected. So I keep a weapon that is more than capable of stopping 2 assailants in a real world situation without reloading.

If you follow police shootouts, you'll note that their hit vs shot rate isn't so hot either. Those guys are supposed to be compat trained. And they put plenty of people down with only moderate injuries to extremities, even with 2 or 3 hits.

Also something worth noting from earlier in the thread. If a bad guy comes into your home in the middle of the night, he's expecting to confront someone. Those are the most dangerous of the bad guys because they are expecting resistance and are usually carrying some sort of weapon and have intent to harm. It's the day time robberies that are performed by the biggest cowards; they don't expect to see anyone.
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The idea that someone is taking into account that there is going to be a lot of missed shots is disturbing. First practice marksmanship then practice practical shooting which includes: strong hand only, weak hand only, standing, kneeling, prone... Also practice shooting over, under and to the sides of things.
Thanks for the advice. I plan on going to classes and lots of practice as stated, BUT I think taking into account missed shots is being realistic. Competition is one thing, an incident in your home with multiple perps is another. Considering that even in training exercises where there are no people shooting back at you, the professionals (police/military/SWAT), who will practice and train a hell of a lot more than I will, miss a decent percentage of their shots, I'd say for the average joe hitting the range a few times a month, I'd expect some missed shots, especially from the wife.

Let's just say worst case scenerio, 3-4 perps who are poised to fight, I'd rather have the higher capacity clip vs. 6-8 rounds per reload. Though, I agree with the principle that you train to hit every shot in all types of situations as you stated, but I think reality would be much different.
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