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Old 02-13-2009, 11:52 AM   #1
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So... very... wrong.

In all seriousness, after four years floating around aimless, how is it that they still have things like cigarettes, rubbers, the fanfold paper that seems to flow freely out of those little slots in CIC, etc., available? Was Ragnar Anchorage really that well stocked?
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So... very... wrong.

In all seriousness, after four years floating around aimless, how is it that they still have things like cigarettes, rubbers, the fanfold paper that seems to flow freely out of those little slots in CIC, etc., available? Was Ragnar Anchorage really that well stocked?

They make mention of rubbers?
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They make mention of rubbers?
No, but the comic did. And that's what jogged my memory on the subject. They've covered the big issues (food, water, O2, common medications, spares & equipment for the Vipers / Raptors, and so on) but there's been no explanation as to why Doc Cottle seems to have an infinite supply of what appear to be factory-made cigarettes, why a decommissioned warship (even a capitol ship) has the capability to run a full-service oncology dept (with an infinite supply of cancer-treatment drugs), why they've never run out of blank fanfold paper (and ribbons) for all those printers in CIC, and so on.
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No, but the comic did. And that's what jogged my memory on the subject. They've covered the big issues (food, water, O2, common medications, spares & equipment for the Vipers / Raptors, and so on) but there's been no explanation as to why Doc Cottle seems to have an infinite supply of what appear to be factory-made cigarettes, why a decommissioned warship (even a capitol ship) has the capability to run a full-service oncology dept (with an infinite supply of cancer-treatment drugs), why they've never run out of blank fanfold paper (and ribbons) for all those printers in CIC, and so on.
Maybe because no one else has cancer and they have a huge supply of it? Or maybe its not medication but some sort of machine or procedure?
I forget, was it really a medication?

As for the paper. Maybe they recycle it? Bleach the paper, and reload the printers? Maybe its disappearing ink? Feed it in upside down and print on the back(This is what I do at least)?
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Damn Joe. It's TV. It's called suspension of disbelief.

Crap, there I go breaking life rule 62 again. Don't **** off Joe Perez! Sorry dude.
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Seriously Joe, you can suspend disbelief for everything else on that show, but PRINTER PAPER you can't get past.

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This is what I love about BSG. Even though it's a show about a race of malevolent robots chasing the last survivors of mankind across the galaxy in faster-than-light spaceships, they make it very easy to accept this as reality. Jump drive is really the only magic pill you have to swallow, and they don't cloak it in technobabble, they just accept it the same way that the crew of a submarine accepts the fact that there's a mysterious box full of atoms and neutrons in the back that makes the boat go and provides them with drinking water. Do you know how a nuclear reactor works? No? Does that fact make it hard for you to accept that we have dozens of subs roaming around in the ocean?

Everything about the way they present the story is somehow familiar. Usually, Sci-Fi goes out of its way to be unreal, but BSG tries very hard (and mostly succeeds) to come across as a documentary. It feels no more foreign than "Band of Brothers". I wasn't personally at the D-day invasion, but I have no difficulty accepting the portrayals I see of it on TV as being rooted in fact.

It's the little things, I think.

There are no little green men, and no shiny suits. All of the characters, Human and Cylon, look, dress, and speak pretty much the same way we do.

There are no ray guns. The pistols shoot bullets, as do the Vipers. Capitol ships carry torpedoes with conventional and nuclear warheads. Defense against these consists primarily of AAA / flak batteries. (think CIWS)

When you got shot, you bleed. If it's bad, you die. No Beverly Crusher magic healing rays, either. The Doc wields a scalpel.

No transporters. Need to get down to the planet? Take a shuttle. Need to head over to another ship in the fleet? Shuttle. And they're not flown with touchpads or nonsensical switch panels. All stick-n-rudder.

No magic sensors. The Radar (er, Dradis I mean) looks pretty much like what we're accustomed to seeing in contemporary war movies. Need to survey a distant system? Sorry Mr. Data- gonna have to send a scout.

The galaxy isn't teeming with interesting and bizarre life forms at every turn. It's pretty damn big, and pretty damn empty. Once you're out of your home system, it's pretty much just empty space and lifeless rocks.


Most of the obvious issues you'd face when exiled from your home in an inhospitable environment have been pretty well covered. The ships burn fuel, but they lucked out when a mobile refinery platform happened to be part of the ragtag band of survivors that Laura marshaled together. (Presumably these are intended to permit mining operations in remote areas, hence the FTL.) When they ran low on water, they went searching until they found a planet covered in ice. When food supplies run low, they scrape up whatever edible substances they can find and process them into something that doesn't look horrible to eat. They've more or less run out of the common medicines in the sickbay. Things like childrens' toys and baby clothes get passed from one family to the next as needed. There's no more coffee. Gaius made a fairly big deal out of the last such-and-such brand cigar in existence, and Kara has apparently depleted her stash.


So why, oh why, are they so incautious about the rate at which they're consuming fanfold tractor-feed printer paper, which is hard enough to come by on Earth, much less in the middle of the Ionian nebula. Where the hell is Cottle getting his smokes? Assume two packs a day (which is probably conservative for him) and he'd have to have packed >220 cartons to tide him through the decommissioning ceremony. Does a US Navy carrier typically load enough toilet paper and toothpaste to last a three year deployment without resupply? (Sam?)

Shades of Gilligan's Island here.



And as usual, I'm sitting in a hotel with no Sci-Fi channel. And the next episode starts in 15 minutes.
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So why, oh why, are they so incautious about the rate at which they're consuming fanfold tractor-feed printer paper, which is hard enough to come by on Earth, much less in the middle of the Ionian nebula. Where the hell is Cottle getting his smokes? Assume two packs a day (which is probably conservative for him) and he'd have to have packed >220 cartons to tide him through the decommissioning ceremony. Does a US Navy carrier typically load enough toilet paper and toothpaste to last a three year deployment without resupply? (Sam?)


And as usual, I'm sitting in a hotel with no Sci-Fi channel. And the next episode starts in 15 minutes.
Dude, im telling you. The paper uses disappearing ink or is bleached. Seriously.

Thanks for reminding me about the show, I have SCI-FI and totally forgot to watch it. I'm a tool. If you want ill download it and send it to you over AIM tomorrow morning.
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At work we've got enough of that fan fold paper (and punch cards) at work to manage a 10 year voyage with out resupply.

Maybe everyone has donated the smokes to the Dr. so he doesn't get even crankier than he already is.
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Thanks for reminding me about the show, I have SCI-FI and totally forgot to watch it. I'm a tool. If you want ill download it and send it to you over AIM tomorrow morning.
Nah. I missed last week too. They're sitting on the hard drive of my media PC back home, awaiting my return. I'm very particular about how I will watch BSG. It cannot be done on a laptop. I have settled into a rather elaborate procedure which entails preparing a DiGiorno pizza (supreme, with garlic bread crust), and dining upon that while watching the first half, sitting on my ancient yet comfortable couch and drinking a strong Scottish Ale, then finishing with a couple of rum & cokes. A decently sized TV and Dolby surround are prerequisites.

However, what are your plans for the weekend? I'm off tomorrow, and I believe Monday is free as well, as CBS takes off President's day. Still awaiting my adventure in Uzbek cuisine.
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At work we've got enough of that fan fold paper (and punch cards) at work to manage a 10 year voyage with out resupply.
Fanfold paper I can swallow. But punch cards? Please tell me you work in a library and they're still being used inside the book covers, and not as a means for doing actual data processing.
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However, what are your plans for the weekend? I'm off tomorrow, and I believe Monday is free as well, as CBS takes off President's day. Still awaiting my adventure in Uzbek cuisine.
Wanna go for a late lunch around 3 ish?

Ill pick you up?

PM me your location and contact info.
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Fanfold paper I can swallow. But punch cards? Please tell me you work in a library and they're still being used inside the book covers, and not as a means for doing actual data processing.
I work at a University, and no they aren't used in any kind of data processing. A number of people still use them as scratch note paper.

In the basement of our building we've got technology that is probably older than I am.
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