The AI-generated cat pictures thread
Can't wait... in a couple years I'll have one finally!!!
03-06-2012, 09:13 AM
#8647
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Skinny tie...
You're god damn right I am. $22,700 is the base Abarth price, 2600 pounds, 160hp/170tq and 28/34mpg, 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. In contrast, my current daily driver weighs 3800 pounds, 225hp/300tq which averages real world 13mpg. Daily needs cargo the Abarth would more than satisfy, plus I'll still have the big truck and my little ishbox Protege for other uses.
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03-06-2012, 09:35 AM
#8650
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Quicker than a shitty honda civic, looks better than a shitty honda civic, and gets great mileage. That's basically what I'm interested in for a daily driver. Plus there's a fair amount of aftermarket available.
Plus I'm banking on them not being very popular and getting a brand new one loaded for under $20k, similar to my Mazdaspeed6 which was purchased at more than 10k under sticker.
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03-06-2012, 11:44 AM
#8655
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Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
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Thanks. Now I can sleep tonight while dreaming of running down the street with four or five of those little things chasing after me.
? May 4 is still two months away.
(But only one more week until pie day.
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? May 4 is still two months away.
(But only one more week until pie day.
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03-06-2012, 11:49 AM
#8656
^I have a Speed6, minor mods. The AWD system is a complete POS. It bumps and clunks all the time trying to figure out where to send power. The clutch is the worst I have ever driven in any vehicle ever. Power is from 3000-5000 and that's it. The stock ECU basically kills all power above 5500.
Inside it's just like a stock Mazda6, which is to say pretty darn good. I love the Mazda interior schemes of the last few generations of cars. Bose stereo is good for a stock unit, and my leather seats are pretty comfy.
Aftermarket is decent but not exactly cheap. Mazda6club and Mazdas24/7 classifieds are ALWAYS full of used MS6 goodies. An intake/intercooler/axleback is good for about 50whp and an equal amount of torque. Accessport is the easiest way to tune, but there are a couple actual piggybacks that people have been working on for years.
The engine itself is actually very robust. Guys who have blown them were really trying to either explore the limits or violated the basic rules or tuning. Transmission is generally regarded as indestructable. There are quite a few issues with various parts of the drivetrain/differential being fragile. If you do a little homework, you'll discover dif-mounts and engine mounts being issues.
There is ZERO argument on the planet to purchase an MS6 over a Subaru Legacy. The Legacy has a better drivetrain, cheaper to mod, faster, more bulletproof, sounds like racecar, more stealth, and roomier inside plus bigger trunk. You might argue that the MS6 is better looking, or that Subie's are played-out... but you would have to justify buying an inferior vehicle in the MS6 as well.
Additionally, I will point out that mine has been absolutely flawless. I am not gentle when I drive it... I kinda hate-drive when I'm in the thing... you know, like seriously going to town on a really fat chick. You have the confidence that you can't hurt her, so you really give her all you got, and not in a nice way.
Someday if I've got an extra $500 to blow on it, I'll probably invest in a used Accessport and Cobb SRI intake for the extra ponies, and to get back the lost power above 5500... but for now, I've learned to look past how bad the drivetrain is. Besides, it's my wifes car.
Oh yeah, don't buy one.
Inside it's just like a stock Mazda6, which is to say pretty darn good. I love the Mazda interior schemes of the last few generations of cars. Bose stereo is good for a stock unit, and my leather seats are pretty comfy.
Aftermarket is decent but not exactly cheap. Mazda6club and Mazdas24/7 classifieds are ALWAYS full of used MS6 goodies. An intake/intercooler/axleback is good for about 50whp and an equal amount of torque. Accessport is the easiest way to tune, but there are a couple actual piggybacks that people have been working on for years.
The engine itself is actually very robust. Guys who have blown them were really trying to either explore the limits or violated the basic rules or tuning. Transmission is generally regarded as indestructable. There are quite a few issues with various parts of the drivetrain/differential being fragile. If you do a little homework, you'll discover dif-mounts and engine mounts being issues.
There is ZERO argument on the planet to purchase an MS6 over a Subaru Legacy. The Legacy has a better drivetrain, cheaper to mod, faster, more bulletproof, sounds like racecar, more stealth, and roomier inside plus bigger trunk. You might argue that the MS6 is better looking, or that Subie's are played-out... but you would have to justify buying an inferior vehicle in the MS6 as well.
Additionally, I will point out that mine has been absolutely flawless. I am not gentle when I drive it... I kinda hate-drive when I'm in the thing... you know, like seriously going to town on a really fat chick. You have the confidence that you can't hurt her, so you really give her all you got, and not in a nice way.
Someday if I've got an extra $500 to blow on it, I'll probably invest in a used Accessport and Cobb SRI intake for the extra ponies, and to get back the lost power above 5500... but for now, I've learned to look past how bad the drivetrain is. Besides, it's my wifes car.
Oh yeah, don't buy one.
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03-06-2012, 11:53 AM
#8657
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What is the relevance to May 4th? I just saw Star Wars posters and thought maybe I should wear my star wars tie today.
I mean Sam, the speed6 is a FWD that can just happen to send 50% of the power to the rear wheels if it senses slip, its not a performance awd. Haven't driven the clutch, but that interior is nice. The thing has pretty impressive numbers on paper.
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03-06-2012, 12:08 PM
#8658
Additionally, I will point out that mine has been absolutely flawless. I am not gentle when I drive it... I kinda hate-drive when I'm in the thing... you know, like seriously going to town on a really fat chick. You have the confidence that you can't hurt her, so you really give her all you got, and not in a nice way.
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