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Old 10-01-2013, 11:18 AM   #41
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just saying it was a stupid move on the guys part to hit the bike which if he was paying attention to, could have easily avoided hitting.
A swarm of wasps decides to fly in front of my car. Since the wasps are dumb and also feel that traffic laws don't apply to them, they think they're superior to my range rover "which is in their way" so one of them decides to be ignorant and slow down faster than necessary, I end up bumping into him. Yes I'm pissed off because of their ignorance. Suddenly, the wasp with the broken stinger releases pheromones that make the other wasps attack.
What do I do? Drive away wrecklessly and let the wasps chase me until they get in my car and sting me?
**** that.
I'm at the next light with a spray can and a lighter burning their wings off as they fly towards me.
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Oh my god you people. I'm not on the bikers side or defending them at all. Like I'v already said, I would have no problem mowing down those guys in that situation, BUT, BUT... I think the outcome could have been non violent for the driver of the SUV had he not hit the bike that brake checked him. Yes on a 6 lane highway, while they were rolling maybe 20 mph, woo, what a deadly threat. The guy could have just slowed and not hit the bike, and possibly avoided an *** beating.

I'm not seeing why you people think the SUV was a victim of something before he hit the bike. From the beginning of the video, it looks to me like he was just an SUV in the middle of a pack of bikes. I didn't see any real threatening behavior besides the brake check, which may have been retribution for something that the guy in the SUV did before the camera started rolling. Even though he was brake checked, I think it was a bad call to hit the guy. I know if I was the driver with my wife and baby in the car and some guy in that pack of bikes brake checked me, I would have enough sense to avoid hitting him (which looked easy to do to me, maybe I"m just awesome like that, since none of you seem to think so) which would no doubt lead to escalate the situation in the way that it so happened to unfold.

I think everybody is just misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Again, not on the side of the bikers at all, just saying it could have been handled by the driver in a better way from the way I see it. A better way that would have avoided what happened in the video.
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A swarm of wasps decides to fly in front of my car. Since the wasps are dumb and also feel that traffic laws don't apply to them, they think they're superior to my range rover "which is in their way" so one of them decides to be ignorant and slow down faster than necessary, I end up bumping into him. Yes I'm pissed off because of their ignorance. Suddenly, the wasp with the broken stinger releases pheromones that make the other wasps attack.
What do I do? Drive away wrecklessly and let the wasps chase me until they get in my car and sting me?
**** that.
I'm at the next light with a spray can and a lighter burning their wings off as they fly towards me.
I agree with that, if it had to come to that. But, again, I don't think it had to come to that.
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I agree with that, if it had to come to that. But, again, I don't think it had to come to that.
I agree with you. There was no prequel to the video, so we don't know the entire story. I also try to avoid confrontation.
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Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post

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For those that haven't watched the primary video, pay attention to the opening seconds and note that there are bikes all around the Range Rover. The guy that brake-checked the driver is seen in the lane next to the truck, apparently jawing and threatening him, before deciding to "teach him a lesson" with the brake-check.

That driver literally had dozens of things to try and keep his eyes and attention on at the moment he ended up bumping the rear tire of that biker, all while probably hopped up on adrenaline because of the very real fear of being surrounded by a menacing pack of people displaying lawless behavior. It would be like taking a wrong exit off the highway and finding yourself trying to drive through one of those insane street parties where the people attack cars. What's to say that, if the driver had slammed on his brakes and avoided the rider in front, a rider in the back wouldn't have hit him or been forced to dump his bike? And would that rider not interpret that as the driver brake-checking him?


The reason he exited the highway was because his tires, which were slashed by the bikers, went completely flat.
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Go watch the other videos of these bikers. This didn't happen randomly. They generally make asshats of themselves on public roads, doing stupid, dangerous things, intimidating drivers, obstructing traffic, etc.
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Oh my god you people. I'm not on the bikers side or defending them at all. Like I'v already said, I would have no problem mowing down those guys in that situation, BUT, BUT... I think the outcome could have been non violent for the driver of the SUV had he not hit the bike that brake checked him. Yes on a 6 lane highway, while they were rolling maybe 20 mph, woo, what a deadly threat. The guy could have just slowed and not hit the bike, and possibly avoided an *** beating.

I'm not seeing why you people think the SUV was a victim of something before he hit the bike. From the beginning of the video, it looks to me like he was just an SUV in the middle of a pack of bikes. I didn't see any real threatening behavior besides the brake check, which may have been retribution for something that the guy in the SUV did before the camera started rolling. Even though he was brake checked, I think it was a bad call to hit the guy. I know if I was the driver with my wife and baby in the car and some guy in that pack of bikes brake checked me, I would have enough sense to avoid hitting him (which looked easy to do to me, maybe I"m just awesome like that, since none of you seem to think so) which would no doubt lead to escalate the situation in the way that it so happened to unfold.

I think everybody is just misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Again, not on the side of the bikers at all, just saying it could have been handled by the driver in a better way from the way I see it. A better way that would have avoided what happened in the video.

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Defending the motorcyclists in any way is ridiculous. They stopped on a major highway, blocking all lanes and got off their bikes to have a confrontation with the guy in the Range Rover. How anyone can try to justify that in their mind is beyond me.
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I can't believe this thread hasn't had 1 slight racial comment added it to yet.
Just sayin.
The gang didnt exactly look like the hell's angels.
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One of the bikers has been arrested.... watched it on Fox a minute ago
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Ain't nobody got time fo dat!
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Speaking of them, at least hells angels dont go around assaulting regular people and posting their videos on youtube. They only seem to bother other people like themselves as far as I know.
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Yes. Better to die a victim than fight back. Hopefully your wife and daughters aren't raped much before they are killed as well. At least you can die knowing you never resorted to violence.
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And australian law.

But Im still going to kill as many hoods as it takes to have them stop following me.

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Speaking of them, at least hells angels dont go around assaulting regular people and posting their videos on youtube. They only seem to bother other people like themselves as far as I know.
they are too busy killing themselves:

Escaped Hells Angel kills himself as Quebec police close in | Toronto Star
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I blame Obama for this
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It would of been MUCH messier if I was in the SUV and these idiots were surrounding me and my family. I would of started side swiping them as they swarmed my car chasing me down the interstate. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight and you don't try to intimidate a vehicle 3x your size.
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I'm really surprised he let them do all that to him and his car. I mean just stop in a big ol parking lot, then play pool with those retards. that rover only weighs like 8k lb.....its really not that easy to break a window in a moving car that can potentially run you over
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Oh my god you people. I'm not on the bikers side or defending them at all. Like I'v already said, I would have no problem mowing down those guys in that situation, BUT, BUT... I think the outcome could have been non violent for the driver of the SUV had he not hit the bike that brake checked him. Yes on a 6 lane highway, while they were rolling maybe 20 mph, woo, what a deadly threat. The guy could have just slowed and not hit the bike, and possibly avoided an *** beating.

I'm not seeing why you people think the SUV was a victim of something before he hit the bike. From the beginning of the video, it looks to me like he was just an SUV in the middle of a pack of bikes. I didn't see any real threatening behavior besides the brake check, which may have been retribution for something that the guy in the SUV did before the camera started rolling. Even though he was brake checked, I think it was a bad call to hit the guy. I know if I was the driver with my wife and baby in the car and some guy in that pack of bikes brake checked me, I would have enough sense to avoid hitting him (which looked easy to do to me, maybe I"m just awesome like that, since none of you seem to think so) which would no doubt lead to escalate the situation in the way that it so happened to unfold.

I think everybody is just misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Again, not on the side of the bikers at all, just saying it could have been handled by the driver in a better way from the way I see it. A better way that would have avoided what happened in the video.

This. Is. Retarded.

Seriously friend, just stop. You're basically saying that the SUV guy is responsible for everything that happened because he fled what was likely an on-going and escalating attack. The bikes are going maybe 20 mph at the onset of the video, clearly the pack had slowed to **** with the guy and had certainly been tormenting him for some time.

Your "blame the victim for not escaping" mentality is truly odd. If your wife gets raped will you blame her for not running away in the proper way??

Please, Jesse, take this advice with in the spirit of kindness with which it's intended and just stop. K? Whatever you're trying to say, it's not coming out right. I mean, do you genuinely believe that the SUV dude took his wife and baby out to go **** with and provoke an enormous pack of outlaw bikers???
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I see what you are trying to reason, Jesse, but I'm guessing Mr. Rover was forced to either bump the bike in front of him or brake check the two bikes extremely close behind him. I'd rather bump one guy that deserves it more than two that don't as much.
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