Re-joined the prick, er, p-car club
#21
Nonono. Go drive a real race car or a shifter kart or a Lenco or a Hewland or a Quaife or any racing gear box ever made that's not an H/Z-pattern. Pull back for faster, push forward for slower. It correlates to the motion of your body during the acceleration or deceleration. Trying to push your hand forward why your body is being pushed backwards is totally illogical.
#23
For example making paddle shifter with upper portion used for up-shift and lower for down-**** makes more sense to me, but Mazda has done the opposite. Making left paddle to downshift and right to upshift also makes more sense to me and Mercedes, Aston Martin and others agree.
#25
Yes Porsche got it backwards with the shifter in 09-12... which they corrected in later generation cars!
The steering wheel has "buttons", identical left and right, with the same wrong direction - push to upshift.
So I started trying to get used to it, and I still get it wrong sometimes.
And then, I drove our Mazda5 where the up and downshift is correct. I immediately got used to it, and it made me get the Porsche wrong more often. Arrrrgghh!
I looked around to see if anyone reversed the shifter - someone has a nice writeup for the steering wheel, but the shifter supposedly is some kind of sealed unit and nobody has really hacked into it. (I prefer using the shifter!)
Additionally I can buy a paddle wheel which is an option Porsche sold - it is correct, left paddle for downshifting. But I'd rather the shifter got fixed.
At this point, I ordered the track-mode "sport+" shifting software which Porsche sells and can be programmed at a dealership. Everyone says they just use the auto and sport button on the street and sport+ on the track, and pretty much never use manual mode. The software is that good. We'll see.
The steering wheel has "buttons", identical left and right, with the same wrong direction - push to upshift.
So I started trying to get used to it, and I still get it wrong sometimes.
And then, I drove our Mazda5 where the up and downshift is correct. I immediately got used to it, and it made me get the Porsche wrong more often. Arrrrgghh!
I looked around to see if anyone reversed the shifter - someone has a nice writeup for the steering wheel, but the shifter supposedly is some kind of sealed unit and nobody has really hacked into it. (I prefer using the shifter!)
Additionally I can buy a paddle wheel which is an option Porsche sold - it is correct, left paddle for downshifting. But I'd rather the shifter got fixed.
At this point, I ordered the track-mode "sport+" shifting software which Porsche sells and can be programmed at a dealership. Everyone says they just use the auto and sport button on the street and sport+ on the track, and pretty much never use manual mode. The software is that good. We'll see.
Last edited by JasonC SBB; 10-20-2016 at 09:02 PM.
#26
Or you can buy the parts <$1k, and follow this dude's fantastic DIY:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../120457/page1/
#30
You can find a car with an aftermarket bearing retrofitted. They all pretty much solve the problem completely. The retrofit costs about $2-3k if done by a shop.
Or you can buy the parts <$1k, and follow this dude's fantastic DIY:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../120457/page1/
Or you can buy the parts <$1k, and follow this dude's fantastic DIY:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../120457/page1/
That confirms it. His shifter must be old and stretched, because it felt extremely vague and squishy.
#31
You can find a car with an aftermarket bearing retrofitted. They all pretty much solve the problem completely. The retrofit costs about $2-3k if done by a shop.
Or you can buy the parts <$1k, and follow this dude's fantastic DIY:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../120457/page1/
Or you can buy the parts <$1k, and follow this dude's fantastic DIY:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../120457/page1/
#33
So I took it to an autox with its random alignment and the new RE050A cars.
Holy terminal understeer, Batman!
Funny how a car can feel sublime on mountain roads yet feel like a wallowy pillowy pig at autox.
I had to get hard on the brakes to even make it turn in, and, on decreasing radius turns, had to tap the brakes.
Next stop, camber plates.
Holy terminal understeer, Batman!
Funny how a car can feel sublime on mountain roads yet feel like a wallowy pillowy pig at autox.
I had to get hard on the brakes to even make it turn in, and, on decreasing radius turns, had to tap the brakes.
Next stop, camber plates.