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Old 03-29-2007, 01:12 PM   #1
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Old 03-29-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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Wonder what caused the fire?
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Apparent a loose fitting on one of the fuel lines.

I saw the orginal thread, I don't think I would take easy the loss of 16k as the purcasher did, or there is legal stuff going on in the background.
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wow...that blows.

why was the original post deleted?
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speculation: because he spent $16k on it, drove it not quite 5 miles, it burned to the ground and the seller (forum sponsor) told him, "it's not my problem".
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:29 PM   #6
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oh...
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OH ****! Damn that sucks!!

Hot enought to melt the aluminum hood. Nice. Horray for plastic intake manifolds too

At least the check engine light isn't on anymore.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:32 PM   #8
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There may or may not be anything legal going on in the background, but the purchaser seems to have plenty of discressionary income. Reading his posts reveals that he has a Land Rover, an AMG Mercedes, and a Tudor (ford street rod) and some custom bikes. Coupled with the fact that he paid $16k cash for the car and didn't bother insuring it.

Still that's really sad. If the bill of sale doesn't have "as is/where is, no expressed or implied warranty or serviceability" written on it, it's a very strong case.

Thankfully no one died, and the new car will be very very cool.

The fact that Gary deleted the thread, well that just says tons about him. He's happy to take money from a business, even if their product is poor to the point where it's potentially deadly.
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hmmmm, i see some muckraking about to occur.


i just need to power up my witty-box so I can think of something clever to poke at the seller about.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:03 PM   #10
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You mean like ask him when he's going to have a Fire Sale on the new conversion kits? :gay:
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:20 PM   #11
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I knew this thread would rise to the occasion.

I can't see that the buyer has anybody to blame, but the seller could show some decency in his response IMO. Telling somebody it's not your problem, sure sounds like you knew of a potential risk prior to sale. Am I wrong?

If I were the buyer, I'd probably start fab'ing and selling LS conversion kits for NB Miatas.
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The fact that Gary deleted the thread, well that just says tons about him. He's happy to take money from a business, even if their product is poor to the point where it's potentially deadly.
That could have happened on any car. Most used cars are sold as is. It's a buyers responsibility to get the car checked out BEFORE he takes ownership, or suffer the consequences. Gary doesn't want a potential legal battle happening on his forum. What's the problem with that?

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That could have happened on any car. Most used cars are sold as is. It's a buyers responsibility to get the car checked out BEFORE he takes ownership, or suffer the consequences. Gary doesn't want a potential legal battle happening on his forum. What's the problem with that?
Not disagreeing.
But why DELETE the thread?

Frankly, the purchaser should have insured the car, so though the fire was the fault of the seller, the financial responsibility and obligation goes to the purchaser once the contract is signed.

I'm with Rob on this. It's very likely that this car was either known to have a fuel leak, or had a recurring leak.
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I'm with Rob on this. It's very likely that this car was either known to have a fuel leak, or had a recurring leak.
the only reason I sell cars is because i know something is wrong....
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the only reason I sell cars is because i know something is wrong....
yeah, like when there's not enough seats for you and three others

just to reiterate- I'm not saying the buyer knew there was something wrong, but I know I wouldn't have come with a "not my problem" response. That might be the difference between a business and a personal sale. OR it might be the difference between responding via a legal representative vs. the business owner. Lots of speculation. This is just one of those stories you can look at when you're having a shitty car day and realize "it just ain't THAT bad."
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OH ****! Damn that sucks!!

Hot enought to melt the aluminum hood. Nice. Horray for plastic intake manifolds too
throw a can in your next campfire.. it'll burn away.

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the other reason to sell a car? because it's too hard for one person to drive two across the country.
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The question is whether or not the car was sold as a product of the shop. Was it represented as a turnkey conversion done by the shop and sold by the shop or was it a personal sale?
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And that is the reason why I carry a fire extinguisher in my car.
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And that is the reason why I carry a fire extinguisher in my car.
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was he driving when the car caught fire?
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