Stephanie @ Begi vs Tom @ FFS
I can't believe that Tom douche bag.
He made a thread about making 190whp on a bone stock 1.6 with his coldside kit. Yeah, kind of impressive, except that was with 16psi and E85.
With real engine management and water/meth, it might actually make a decent setup.
What a waste of time. Oh well, atleast he has low egt's and isn't weighted down by a boat anchor called a turbo
He made a thread about making 190whp on a bone stock 1.6 with his coldside kit. Yeah, kind of impressive, except that was with 16psi and E85.
With real engine management and water/meth, it might actually make a decent setup.
What a waste of time. Oh well, atleast he has low egt's and isn't weighted down by a boat anchor called a turbo
lol @ the 5000rpm powerband guy.
We are storing an NA with a tweaked LS1 at our shop right now. 410whp, 405wtq IIRC. Car weighs something like 2580lbs. 400ft.lbs from -400rpm to 900000rpm probably. As much fun as the low-end torque is, if I'm under 3k on the highway and I want to pass someone, I'll still downshift, even in that car. You don't need a 5000rpm wide powerband - as long as the sucker is on full song by 3500-4k, I'm a happy camper.
We are storing an NA with a tweaked LS1 at our shop right now. 410whp, 405wtq IIRC. Car weighs something like 2580lbs. 400ft.lbs from -400rpm to 900000rpm probably. As much fun as the low-end torque is, if I'm under 3k on the highway and I want to pass someone, I'll still downshift, even in that car. You don't need a 5000rpm wide powerband - as long as the sucker is on full song by 3500-4k, I'm a happy camper.
how often are our cars below 3500 anyways?
on the freeway going 65 or any faster you're at 3500-4000 the whole time. Any sort of spirited driving and you're above that as well.
WHO THE **** needs power/torque at 2k rpm?
on the freeway going 65 or any faster you're at 3500-4000 the whole time. Any sort of spirited driving and you're above that as well.
WHO THE **** needs power/torque at 2k rpm?
Socal pat. But really no one, I am pretty sure if you want to go from a roll in 5th gear at 40 mph, a roots is better. I hate coldsides anyways, due to lack of proper intercooling.
Funny thread about that, where I asked a question regarding boost levels for a given WHP on a Rotrex and a PD setup:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...=379323&page=2
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...=379323&page=2
More TQ at 3.5K does not neccesarily mean more all over, especially with the progressive curve of the Rotrex.
Why larger budget? The two systems are within a few hundred bucks of each other.
The Rotrex is making 142WTQ on 5-6 psig boost for the above dyno from their site. A MP62 made 161WTQ on 11.8 psig boost. (http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=366746) That's a significant factor for me. What does the Rotrex do when you have 11-12 psig?
Why larger budget? The two systems are within a few hundred bucks of each other.
The Rotrex is making 142WTQ on 5-6 psig boost for the above dyno from their site. A MP62 made 161WTQ on 11.8 psig boost. (http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=366746) That's a significant factor for me. What does the Rotrex do when you have 11-12 psig?
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