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Old 03-08-2012, 05:39 PM   #21
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I have both worlds right now and can definitely see the pros/cons to both. At the house I have a 30x40 garage in the back where we (3 guys) keep our current projects and a 40x60 at my shop where I keep the bus, trailers, spare shells, body parts, lemons cars, etc.

Last night I went out into the garage around 11pm to just tinker with stuff and ended up staying out there until about 2am. I do this somewhat frequently and it keeps my brain active by always trying to work on stuff. I also don't have to plan ahead to do it and can be back in the house by walking 100ft.

Up at the shop, we can go up there and spend the whole day working on the bus or projects in general away from the house to get out. Most of the time we spend the whole day up there and it is only 15 minutes away from my house, so that is still enjoyable. With it still being close, it is hard to go up there on the weekend or evening if I don't plan on doing so ahead of time.

All of that being said, if I lived in a densely populated area that didn't afford me the space in my backyard that my house in BFE does, then I would consider a garage condo an option. The closer we get to having kids, the more a garage away from the house makes sense though.
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I definitely agree with the "all else being equal" idea of preferring an on-site garage is preferable. It's all individual, though. I almost never work on the car during the week and would just store most all of my tools at the workshop. In fact, it would allow me space to add more tools like a big compressor, table saw, a welder (and excuse to learn to weld), etc while freeing up my home garage to park both of our commuters in.

And, if it was big enough, I could park the box truck track transporter in there!

I could literally go and buy two lots with two houses on them in the ex-urbs of Central Florida for what I bought my current home for, but I would rather spend an extra $500/month for a condo garage than give up my current neighborhood, 5 mile commute, central location, etc.

Obviously, that calculus will be different for everyone.
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No Taj Mahal here, but the one benefit of living in Nebraska. Here's my storage condo.

House, 30'x56' shop, 40'x60' storage building, I built the house and shop in 2001 and the 40x60 in 2006. Everything is paid for in full.

All of the property inset in the second pic is mine.
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What happened to the island?
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No Taj Mahal here, but the one benefit of living in Nebraska.
A) Kudos and congratulations. I mean that with no sarcasm.

B) There are 70 homes in my neighborhood on the same amount of land.
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Prices seem to be all over the board: in that Garage Journal thread, they mention anything from $80 to $180/sq ft. And I assume that is before the buildout.
Just read through that guys thread, and his price was $110 AFTER everything was built and installed.
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What happened to the island?
I don't LIVE on the island. It's just a weekend cabin, lol. It's still there. Actually taking the boat this weekend and dropping it in to get out there for the first time in a couple of months.
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Just read through that guys thread, and his price was $110 AFTER everything was built and installed.
Crap, my HOUSE cost $85/ft to build.
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I don't LIVE on the island. It's just a weekend cabin, lol. It's still there. Actually taking the boat this weekend and dropping it in to get out there for the first time in a couple of months.
so when I come out there, do you want me to bring the girls or are we going to pick some up in town?
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Just read through that guys thread, and his price was $110 AFTER everything was built and installed.
I think that was $110 for the construction of the building, not for the mezzanine, lighting, furniture, etc. If his buildout was $110/sq foot, I am sold.

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Crap, my HOUSE cost $85/ft to build.
Again, the advantage of living in the boonies of the boonies (Nebraska). It was closer to twice that for a place in our neighborhood... After prices had fallen 30 - 40% from their bubble peak.
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so when I come out there, do you want me to bring the girls or are we going to pick some up in town?
It's in the middle of a lake with a public beach. No need to go to town.
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Looks like you have a good size garden as well there, sir. Jelly. Add a greenhouse for aquaponics and I'd be triple jelly.

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LOL, we just added another big garden this year, more than double the size of the one in that pic and I'm putting in a greenhouse this fall for growing over the winter.
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then consider my face the best impression i can make of the tripple jelly image above.

i need to be somewhere that I can get cheap land and still have access to a high paying job. then i can run with these guys:

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/fo...hp?f=18&t=1619
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It's in the middle of a lake with a public beach. No need to go to town.
bro, if you can't see the obvious parallels between the below pic and what we need to be doing this summer, I'm going to revoke your mancard...

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LOL, we just added another big garden this year, more than double the size of the one in that pic and I'm putting in a greenhouse this fall for growing over the winter.
I think we should go into business together.
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As far as I know, these are all zoned commercial only. You cannot live in them.
Because a bunch of bureaucrats said so? Take a step back and think about how ridiculous this rule is. Where does the rule come from? Why is it better for society?
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then consider my face the best impression i can make of the tripple jelly image above.

i need to be somewhere that I can get cheap land and still have access to a high paying job. then i can run with these guys:

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/fo...hp?f=18&t=1619
I just looked at this because I didn't know the purpose. I figured, "why go to all of the trouble to do that when I could just grow vegatables in the ground?" After reading the thread and saw the aquarium portion and posts talking about how much "fish load" capacity they had I understood - I think.

They increase the fish growing capacity by filtering the fish crap through the growing portions? So, the whole purpose is for both vegetable growing and fish growing/production for food?

If that's the case I doubt I can do it due to the cold winters here unless I wanted to geothermal well the water to keep it warm.

I just planned on being able to grow veggies over the winter. That was all.
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Because a bunch of bureaucrats said so? Take a step back and think about how ridiculous this rule is. Where does the rule come from? Why is it better for society?
The zoning is what made me post the comment about not storing anything of value there. Because of that, there's a good chance that nobody is around much late at night. So, anyone can nose around in the small hours with a flashlight, and look to see what's inside. Cool car? Bet there are a lot of easily removed and pawned parts on it. Hell, there are lots of mouth breathers that would break in just to be destructive.

There is a reason that self store facilities are built of concrete without a way in except the main door.
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I just looked at this because I didn't know the purpose. I figured, "why go to all of the trouble to do that when I could just grow vegatables in the ground?" After reading the thread and saw the aquarium portion and posts talking about how much "fish load" capacity they had I understood - I think.

They increase the fish growing capacity by filtering the fish crap through the growing portions? So, the whole purpose is for both vegetable growing and fish growing/production for food?

If that's the case I doubt I can do it due to the cold winters here unless I wanted to geothermal well the water to keep it warm.

I just planned on being able to grow veggies over the winter. That was all.
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yeah, you create a fully organic sustained ecosystem where the energy inputs into the system are feeding the fish, sunlight, and whatever electricity the pumps use. the fish waste feeds the plants, the plants clean the water for the fish.
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If you have to commute to wrench or play with your toys, you'll find yourself doing it a lot less.
My car is 25 miles away. I havent seen it since October and planned to work on it before spring...

emissions and inspection on it are due this month.
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