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Old 07-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #21
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If I were going to that much trouble there'd be an LSx under the hood.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:00 PM   #22
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If I were going to that much trouble there'd be an LSx under the hood.
that's what I was thinking too.

And really, the more I think about it, my desire for a monster is growing more and more. Matter of fact, I got a call from my father yesterday. He has a nice SBC he volunteered to get the party started.

Decisions, decisions. I have both a Ford 3.9 out of a late model t-bird, and and an olds 455 cid 10.5:1, that need homes already. Plus a miata 1.8 motor too...
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my name is vash, ive been banned once....it can happen again....

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that's what I was thinking too.

And really, the more I think about it, my desire for a monster is growing more and more. Matter of fact, I got a call from my father yesterday. He has a nice SBC he volunteered to get the party started.

Decisions, decisions. I have both a Ford 3.9 out of a late model t-bird, and and an olds 455 cid 10.5:1, that need homes already. Plus a miata 1.8 motor too...
Ben do it, man find a cheap miata and monster it... **** man I even volunteer my time...

I still want to see a LSx miata....hmmm I like my turbo 4 but nothing like a v8... to bad a DOHC V8 won't really fit
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and at 150rwhp, thats not going to scoot around town very fast.
So you figure the S2000 loses 90hp between the flywheel and the wheels? Harsh..
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:02 PM   #26
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And Magna, you're comparing apples to oranges. Of course your BOOSTED engine makes more torque at lower revs..
No, you're missing his point. Magna's saying his set up makes more power for less time, labor, and money. He's right.

I also think that the s2k swap is a waste of resources.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:04 PM   #27
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Ben do it, man find a cheap miata and monster it... **** man I even volunteer my time...
It's not the cost of the platform holding me back, it's the cost of doing the conversion. It's easily a 10k+ project on top of purchase price.
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my name is vash, ive been banned once....it can happen again....

haha....cause i quoted what they wrote on the s2k forum....wow

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Old 07-18-2007, 07:47 PM   #29
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oh haha. i thought those were your thoughts....next time use quotes
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No, you're missing his point. Magna's saying his set up makes more power for less time, labor, and money. He's right.
ahh. Gotcha.
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He brags and brags about the numbers, but I really wonder whether he understands the point of a swap like that. If you just want to go fast, doing a turbo is the way to do it. I'd bet that my car would smoke him on a track, even with 25 less rwhp.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:20 AM   #32
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jesus christ that is the most annoying forum ever.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:36 AM   #33
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ok here's my next question....what makes the F20C so far more superior? He still had to load it with cams and crap...do the same with a miata engine and wouldn't be far off...right?
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:40 AM   #34
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The BP will never rev to 28k like the stupid Honda motor.

I got a chance to drive an NA with a 99 1.8 w/ cams and ITB's and a standalone. Put down 175 hp and, IMO was ******* brutal. And easy--just bolt on some stuff, tune, and go.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:49 AM   #35
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It all depends on whether you drank the Honda Kool-Aid or not. Up until 2002, I had nothing but Hondas since 84, and they make great motors - especially if you like to rev the snot out of them. However, my 1.6 Miata's a pretty great little motor too, and it revs just as sweetly as my old Civic Si. But in 02, I got a GTI 1.8T - it had honest-to-God torque below 4k but felt like a garden tractor over 5500. Once i get the Miata boosted, I'm expecting the torque AND rev-ability.

Just have to remember that it's a S2000 fansite, and since they're all Honda types, low-torque high-rev is their religion.
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yep as soon as i posted a dissenting opinion and got this flack from them what frickin ricers
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LoL... I really hope thats someone from the site who made a new SN to screw with you alex....

REALLY hope...

If not...well then may the lord help there poor, confused soul.
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ok first of all its a track car not a street car get that straight, second the miata drive train blows turbo or not, the s2000 engine makes way more power na than a miata motor,and all he has to do is buy the 2.7 storker and that motor will make way more power than any miata motor turboed. as it is right now the S motor making 232 rwhpis great considering that the header is just temporary untill the custom header arrives and not to mention the cams.with that the S motor will make more power alone with the new header and cams then a miata motor turboed........I tell you what how bout you bring you car to the track and se if you can hang with the M2000, better yet ill have my Rx-7 there lets see if you can hang with that first.

its not cool that you come on this thread and bash or hate on ppl you dont know,and claim that the miata turbo is faster or makes more power than an NA s2000 motor, I got a question for you what do you think will happen if he did go turbo with the s2000 motor and a car that wieghs 2000lbs? one way more power than the miata drive train.

so get outta here with that crap..

you wanna see what will out run what come to the track this weekend bottomline.


and remeber its a (TRACK CAR)
Atleast MX5racers stood fast kinda
God i hope they reply back i so wanna rip into there honda asses. And see if maybe i get banned
And bochet who i think is a member on the other sites tried to bust me out WTF is that about. Man if that guy was around i would bust him up showwing everyone i bought a Bryce Courtney book off amazon.com He probably has no clue what it was about anyway.

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Old 07-19-2007, 11:28 AM   #37
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I got a chance to drive an NA with a 99 1.8 w/ cams and ITB's and a standalone. Put down 175 hp and, IMO was ******* brutal. And easy--just bolt on some stuff, tune, and go.

there you go, saved yourself a ton of money, time, effort and end up with just a good of a car.

Throw in the same AEM ecu, do some headwork with cams, rev the **** to 9K and be happy.


I'm still perplexed by running the s2k ecu & gauge pod.
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I think its pretty bad ***. Shame he hasn't boosted it though.
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So he seems like a pretty big idiot if he doesn't realize the benefit of Cost per performance. I mean yeah he might be able to turbo that motor, but god would that cost a lot. I mean hell I think miata turboing costs a lot and that's only like 3 to 4k. My build should put me somewhere around 1k or less, granted right now I'm only looking at 8 psi, but that could easily change since I'm running MS. Someone really didn't tell honda guys that Torque is the name of the game. I mean Horsepower is a number that is directly derived from an equation using torque. So if your torque blows why is it benefitial to the HP? BTW...the miata is pretty even for torque and HP...i've got the dyno to prove it, but I do enjoy my G/F's. MR2 because even though it weighs more and doesn't have substantially more HP the torque is deffinately there.
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This guy did it all wrong. You are supposed to swap the turbo Miata engine into the S2K.
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