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Old 02-14-2011, 11:28 AM   #21
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I debated it also. But realized that a safety is one more thing to think about in a pressure situation. I've been taught to keep my finger away until shooting.

For range use/safe - home defense use/ possibly competition use... a safety would just be a problem.

Plus... they come with thumb safety versions now.

I don't really like thumb safeties for the reason you listed.... but the trigger being the only one(especially the m&p style) makes me a bit nervous. the Combo of the grip+trigger on the xD made me more comfortable with the thought of carrying it on me for concealed carry. IE, gotta be holding it right for it to fire.
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I don't really like thumb safeties for the reason you listed.... but the trigger being the only one(especially the m&p style) makes me a bit nervous. the Combo of the grip+trigger on the xD made me more comfortable with the thought of carrying it on me for concealed carry. IE, gotta be holding it right for it to fire.
True, I can't CCW though. So for my situations more = bad.
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I like the M&P but they are further down the list.

As for safeties, its a muscle memory thing. What you practice is what you do under stress and thats why repetitive practice ensures that. I thumb off my Baby Eagle without any issues.. If you want the best of both worlds.. 1911 gives you the options to choose for yourself...
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I like the M&P but they are further down the list.
Further down the list than?
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:15 PM   #25
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POF .223 PDF
Remington 700P .308 Tactical
GAP HRT
Glock 21
Glock 19
Howa 1500 .223
Mossberg JIC Cruiser
Beretta PX4 Storm (wife)
SA TRP 1911

there are a few more for this years purchases but cant think off the top of my head...
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Walther P99
I thought you were going to go with the 1911?

How do you like the P99? I am a big fan of Walther's because they always seem to fit perfectly in my hands. a P99 or PPS will probably be my next pistol purchase.

I own a Bushmater AR-15, Walther PPKS, Walther P22, and a Keltec P3AT.
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Springfield XD45c
Sig P226 357sig/40S&W
Ruger SR9c
Ruger Mark II
Mossberg 500
Ruger 10/22 with "Tech-sites"
AR-15 custom built with EOtech. (my "make Nancy Pelosi cry" gun)
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:41 PM   #28
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I thought you were going to go with the 1911?

How do you like the P99? I am a big fan of Walther's because they always seem to fit perfectly in my hands. a P99 or PPS will probably be my next pistol purchase.

I own a Bushmater AR-15, Walther PPKS, Walther P22, and a Keltec P3AT.
The 1911 was not "clean", I did my homework before buying. This P99 is as good as new. I really like it. It fits my hand like a glove, I like the clip release (can't be pressed accidentally), I don't like the safety though. 9mm ammo can be found anywhere these days and is cheap compared to the .45ACP. Oh, and its easier on the arm when shooting. 16 round mag is also nice, I have two just in case.
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Rifles:

Springfield Armory SOCOM 16, .308
Saiga AK-47, 7.62x39mm
Plum Crazy complete AR lower (not built)
Ruger 10/22, .22LR

Shotguns:

NEF Pardner Protector Pump, 12 GA

Pistols:

Steyr M9-A1, 9mm
Kahr P45, .45 ACP
Kahr P9 Covert, 9mm
LWD Timberwolf G17/G22 lower (not built)
S&W 422 6" barrel, .22LR
S&W 19-6 2.5" barrel, .357
S&W 38-2 Airweight Bodyguard, .38
Ruger SP101 3" barrel, .357

Previously owned:

Yugo SKS
Springfield Armory XD-9 Subcompact
Glock 30
Ruger P345
S&W 5946
HK P7 PSP
SIG Sauer P6
Ruger Bearcat
Marvel Unit 2 Conversion (.22LR) on 1911 frame
Colt Ace Conversion (.22LR) on 1911 frame

Might be one or two I'm forgetting but I think that's pretty much everything.
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I thought you were going to go with the 1911?

How do you like the P99? I am a big fan of Walther's because they always seem to fit perfectly in my hands. a P99 or PPS will probably be my next pistol purchase.

I own a Bushmater AR-15, Walther PPKS, Walther P22, and a Keltec P3AT.
I had a PPS in .40 and had nothing but problems with it, ended up getting rid of it. Loved the size/ergonomics of it though.
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I carry a S&W Model 627 loaded with eight Black Talons. We're I'm from, we call that a bad bitch.
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I carry a S&W Model 627 loaded with eight Black Talons. We're I'm from, we call that a bad bitch.
Aren't the Black Talons about 20yrs behind the ballistics curve?

Get some Bonded PDX1 (latest and greatest) or Ranger SXT (replacement for Talons).
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The rounds are still comparable to HST, Ranger-T, etc.
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SXT are basically Black Talons. SXT = Same eXact Thing.
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SXT are basically Black Talons. SXT = Same eXact Thing.
Yep, however the novelty of Black Talons is still a hard thing to deny.
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SXT are basically Black Talons. SXT = Same eXact Thing.
Not exactly the same though. Didn't they improve spread pattern on the SXT? And yah, I knew the joke version of SXT
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Not exactly the same though. Didn't they improve spread pattern on the SXT? And yah, I knew the joke version of SXT


Please tell me "sharper" is a scientific term and that it really makes a difference and I'll raise you seven more rounds.
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I carry a S&W Model 627 loaded with eight Black Talons. We're I'm from, we call that a bad bitch.
Where I'm from, I'd consider that far too heavy and bulky to conceal in shorts and a T-shirt. They aren't any good if you don't have them with you when you need them. Florida is a tough state to conceal in in the summer.
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Where I'm from, I'd consider that far too heavy and bulky to conceal in shorts and a T-shirt. They aren't any good if you don't have them with you when you need them. Florida is a tough state to conceal in in the summer.
Trenchcoat 'err day.

Nah, I've got a few other things up my sleeve. As far as the weight and bulk of the M627 goes, I think it's a burden worth bearing because it's easily worked around and the **** goes clap, clap, clap.
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