Yet another "which car should I buy?" jerk off fest
07-30-2012, 10:37 PM
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The only NB that has a CARB legal kit available is a 99. The CARB EO tags only work on specific years, so even though a 00 or 01 or whatever is the same "technically" as a 99, legally, CARB says no and you fail. BEGI is the only one to make a kit, the Greddy kit is only CARB legal on 91-97s if memory serves.
As 18PSI said, most just remove and replace every two years. You technically can build your stuff and then go to the REF and through tons of hassle to get your own CARB EO tags but it's a HUGE pain and generally not worth it.
Depending on who smogs it, you can potentially do something slick like use the CARB EO tags for a certain kit but use your own stuff as most places won't know the difference as long as you pass the sniffer test and it looks like it came from a kit (everything fits well etc.). However, if your car is OBDII, good luck getting it to pass with a modified computer, so that means you're limited to '91-'95.
The other problem is that most counties in CA require a dyno smog test where they run the car at various RPM ranges, so you have to make sure your tune is running properly across all the ranges they test which can be a big challenge.
As 18PSI said, most just remove and replace every two years. You technically can build your stuff and then go to the REF and through tons of hassle to get your own CARB EO tags but it's a HUGE pain and generally not worth it.
Depending on who smogs it, you can potentially do something slick like use the CARB EO tags for a certain kit but use your own stuff as most places won't know the difference as long as you pass the sniffer test and it looks like it came from a kit (everything fits well etc.). However, if your car is OBDII, good luck getting it to pass with a modified computer, so that means you're limited to '91-'95.
The other problem is that most counties in CA require a dyno smog test where they run the car at various RPM ranges, so you have to make sure your tune is running properly across all the ranges they test which can be a big challenge.
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07-31-2012, 11:16 AM
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I think most people are failing to ask an important question:
What is the OP's mechanical inclination and ability? My impression is: not high. [Full disclosure: my inclination is even below my average-at-best ability.]
To that end, I think the C5 could be an option. I have no idea what the quality of car is at that price point, but the important parts of the car are quite reliable if you can avoid a few major gremlins (like water on the ECU). The seats are comfortable enough for cruising (assuming they don't rock) but are terrible for spirited driving.
My previous car:
Not that bad...
Okay, this is pretty terrible.
What is the OP's mechanical inclination and ability? My impression is: not high. [Full disclosure: my inclination is even below my average-at-best ability.]
To that end, I think the C5 could be an option. I have no idea what the quality of car is at that price point, but the important parts of the car are quite reliable if you can avoid a few major gremlins (like water on the ECU). The seats are comfortable enough for cruising (assuming they don't rock) but are terrible for spirited driving.
My previous car:
Not that bad...
Okay, this is pretty terrible.
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07-31-2012, 11:24 AM
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it's pretty bad... and that's being completely objective 
i remember dirving my parents grand prix GTP to NY from VA once. I had to stuff napkins betweens the shitty plastic panels to get them from rattling/squeaking the entire trip.
it wasnt fun.
i remember dirving my parents grand prix GTP to NY from VA once. I had to stuff napkins betweens the shitty plastic panels to get them from rattling/squeaking the entire trip.
it wasnt fun.
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