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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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after carrying a FSN for a couple months, I switched back to my .357 mag. the FSN is cool and all, but I don't like carrying with a holster and the RAILZ used to grind into my flesh.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pen2_the_penguin
The more comical part of that is I can't even SEE 500 yards... to hit something with irons? Not unless I got lucky
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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Retained an attorney

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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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I found a great spot in the everglades. Went there Saturday evening, got a speck of ---- on my head by a passing vulture, killed two of them that day and two other undisclosed animals. The .454 is a beast and super accurate from much farther than I was anticipating. I love it.



Old Jul 25, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Got a $100 Amazon gift card for b-day from Dad... bought a few gizmos.

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Oh yeah!
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Anyone got experience with the Steyr M-A1? I finally saw one today. Very impressive trigger on it...didn't get to fire it, though.
Steyr Mannlicher US: Steyr Pistol M-A1
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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I went to the range yesterday, shot a AR-15 in .22lr and a H&K USP in .40 S&W. The AR had feeding issues, probably because its a range gun and it looks like it hasn't been cleaned in forever, fun gat though. I didn't like trigger pull on the USP at all, way too long.
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by czubaka
Anyone got experience with the Steyr M-A1? I finally saw one today. Very impressive trigger on it...didn't get to fire it, though.
Steyr Mannlicher US:-Steyr Pistol M-A1
I own one. I love it. It's an interesting pistol -- designed in-house by a Glock employee as an update/improvement on the Glock. When Glock chose not to use his design, he requested and received permission to sell the design to Steyr-Mannlicher instead.

Pros:
  • Super low bore axis (incredibly soft and controllable recoil)
  • Trigger is better than Glock/XD in my opinion
  • Trigger gets even better with Glide-Rite striker pin bushings
  • Fully supported chamber in all chamberings
  • Fit/finish better than Glock/XD
  • Incredibly accurate (comparable to my HK P7 and SIG P225)
  • Completely reliable (as long as you have the updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr)
  • Relatively cheap magazines

Cons:
  • Grip angle doesn't work for everyone (I hate Glocks, but love this)
  • Trigger may not be as good as worked-over Glock/XD trigger
  • Had to request updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr for 100% reliability (new pistols should be fine)
  • Questionable future support and parts availability (compared to Glock/XD)
  • Trapezoidal sights (I like them, and if you don't, can be swapped for traditional sights of your choice)
  • Slightly bigger than G19 (with same mag cap)
  • Not much choice in holsters (compared to Glock/XD)

I snagged mine from CDNN when they were blowing them out for $350. It's a no brainer at that price (really, at under $400, I'd take it over a beat up Glock or XD). Over $400...you're probably safer with one of the Glock/XD/M&P group for mags, parts availability, and company support.

Once mine was sorted out with the updated extractor and mag springs, however, I put it through its paces and feel 100% confidence in it. I also added a stainless steel guide rod and the Glide-Rite strike pin bushings. It's my nightstand pistol.

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Any idea where I can get an M&P15 Sport? No one has them in stock and with what Hussein said today, now is the time to buy.
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Originally Posted by hustler
Any idea where I can get an M&P15 Sport? No one has them in stock and with what Hussein said today, now is the time to buy.
If all else fails get one of these.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16
If all else fails get one of these.
I don't know enough to build one, and I want to swap to 22LR too, just for the range. With Hussein Obamadenijad's comments today, it's time to get one before the prices skyrocket, supply dwindles, or another AR ban.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Spring Guns & Ammo here in Houston had a few M&Ps on the shelf today. Not sure if any were the 15 Sport.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hustler
I don't know enough to build one, and I want to swap to 22LR too, just for the range. With Hussein Obamadenijad's comments today, it's time to get one before the prices skyrocket, supply dwindles, or another AR ban.
I really really believe if you can build a turbo miata you can build an AR. Just crack one open and have a look at a complete lower receiver, diffidently not impossible.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
I own one. I love it. It's an interesting pistol -- designed in-house by a Glock employee as an update/improvement on the Glock. When Glock chose not to use his design, he requested and received permission to sell the design to Steyr-Mannlicher instead.

Pros:
  • Super low bore axis (incredibly soft and controllable recoil)
  • Trigger is better than Glock/XD in my opinion
  • Trigger gets even better with Glide-Rite striker pin bushings
  • Fully supported chamber in all chamberings
  • Fit/finish better than Glock/XD
  • Incredibly accurate (comparable to my HK P7 and SIG P225)
  • Completely reliable (as long as you have the updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr)
  • Relatively cheap magazines

Cons:
  • Grip angle doesn't work for everyone (I hate Glocks, but love this)
  • Trigger may not be as good as worked-over Glock/XD trigger
  • Had to request updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr for 100% reliability (new pistols should be fine)
  • Questionable future support and parts availability (compared to Glock/XD)
  • Trapezoidal sights (I like them, and if you don't, can be swapped for traditional sights of your choice)
  • Slightly bigger than G19 (with same mag cap)
  • Not much choice in holsters (compared to Glock/XD)

I snagged mine from CDNN when they were blowing them out for $350. It's a no brainer at that price (really, at under $400, I'd take it over a beat up Glock or XD). Over $400...you're probably safer with one of the Glock/XD/M&P group for mags, parts availability, and company support.

Once mine was sorted out with the updated extractor and mag springs, however, I put it through its paces and feel 100% confidence in it. I also added a stainless steel guide rod and the Glide-Rite strike pin bushings. It's my nightstand pistol.

Great info, thanks! These are all the pistols I'm considering, so this is a huge help. The M9-A1 the shop had was $519, so probably a little steep compared to the competition.

I've fired one of my friend's XDM-9's with a Powder River Precision trigger. THAT was nice. The Steyr's trigger seemed not to far off.

Then again, I'm pretty much a gun noob. I qual'd on the M9 when I was in the AF, but shooting it once every two years doesn't help much.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Anythoughts on a Kahr or HiPoint carbine 9mm?
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
Anythoughts on a Kahr or HiPoint carbine 9mm?
The HiPoint is an awesome gun. The latest versions even have a stock that isn't completely butt-ugly. My only problem is they take proprietary 10rd magazine... I think somebody sells an aftermarket 15rd mag though. Whatever moron at HiPoint decided not to use another brands hi-cap mag lost out on a huge demographic.

Look at Keltec... their Sub2000 takes 4 different kinds of mags you can get in 30rd configurations, and they sell for almost double MSRP and are unavailable on shelves, and most FFL's wont take a deposit or order one for you because of how hard they are to get.

The equally as ugly Beretta CX4 used the hi-cap mags from the 92f and is even more expensive than a Keltec... and I can't believe they are any more reliable than the Hi-Point, which has a reliablility reputation that's equal to anything else you can name.

IMHO, the HiPoint is almost the perfect gun. I can even get over how ugly it is. I've fired on once and it was great... but lack of hi-cap mags is a complete and utter deal breaker.

Your other options in a "black-type gun" is the Just Right Carbine, or the MechTech Glock carbine conversion... which after it's kitt'd out, is more than 2 HiPoints.
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I'm thinking a 3-9x40 is bit overkill... but a basic 30mm reddot would be perfect for a gun you're not gonna shoot past about 100yds... maybe 150yds... but this one is fairly tacticool.
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Thanks, I like the Hi Point because it saves me about $500. Now that I know there is a big-mag out there, I'm even more interested. The single-stack 10-rd mag is retarded. A Hi Point with carbine with a Trijicon sight would be cool and cheap to shoot.

Can I shoot those at any range?
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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The sad thing I used to see those Hi-Point carbines for $125-150 at gun shows. Now I see them $300+.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
The sad thing I used to see those Hi-Point carbines for $125-150 at gun shows. Now I see them $300+.
That's what happens when they get popular.

Sub2000 was the same. MSRP is $409.00 and you see ******** @ shows trying to sell them for $599 when they should sell for $290ish.

Hipoint carbine is one of my favorite cheap guns also. What drew me to the 2k is glock magazines are very cheap and very plentiful for 33 rounders, plus I already own a glock handgun.
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Yeah, I've got a LWD Timberwolf Glock frame that I've thought about building up with a G17 upper...and then stockpiling G17 mags...and then picking up a Sub 2K that takes G17 mags...



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