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^^^+1.

follow up with a sling and attend an Appleseed.
https://appleseedinfo.org/

 

I had mostly forgotten about that, I should do it some day to get some tweaking to my form. They seemed to have a bit of an ideological hub bub a few years back (maybe isolated to IL?), and I've heard they have a bit of heavy history telling to go with the firearms training, but seems like a fun exercise.

 

Tell me more about these free mods. Love shooting my 10/22, especially now that .22 is back down to sane levels, I just have a hard time spending money on modifying a $200 rifle.

 

I did it in about 2011 before the last presidential elections. It was part of the "Appleseed 300" event where they tried ot get 300 shooters in one event. It was pretty cool.

It IS heavy on history and maybe some might think it's a little political, it's main mission/lesson is that an involved populace is necessary for a functioning democracy. Basically they tell the story of the ride of Paul Revere and how they were able to raise a willing fighting force over the course of one night.

I don't know what happened after that, and I do feel like I heard some rumblings of issues, but as long as the event is what it was back in 2011 I am still a big fan. Probably the best basic rifleman training you can get for the money.

Here are a bunch of items for the 10/22 from the Project Appleseed store: http://store.rwvaappleseed.com/page13.html

 

I'm helping behind the counter of my friends gun store on Wednesday. It's going to be crazy the day after Clinton wins.

 

here's my 10/22.. super fun to shoot. tapco stock, bx-25 mag, aimsport 4x32, and vertical grip (probably going to take it off just seeing if I liked it)

DIY mods:
leather buttpad
strap
barrel cut/crown
paracord grip

also own a savage model 11 scout, ruger sr9c, and mossberg 500 20ga. currently in the market for a 9mm carbine but all the decent options are overpriced.

 

I don't list my guns anymore, partly becuse I have to actually think about it (too many). I do know I have one less gun than I had last year. Sold one I didn't have a use for to a friend.

 

In my face.

 

America is the real loser here. But hey, at least guns will stay cheap!

 

From the ramblings thread:
The "spread" by a shotgun inside of home defense distances (15-21 feet or so) is not much larger than 6" or so (my data might be off), so you still have to aim. It's not really a weapon you can fire in the general direction and expect to hit. What the shotgun has (at least to my knowledge) is extreme trauma with the right shotgun load.

(the birdshot spread in the video is 11" to be fair. I personally wouldn't use birdshot for home defense based on experts I trust)

 

#4 buck is the correct shotgun load for home defense.
I personally prefer a rifle for home defense, but I will elaborate on that later.
And yes shotgun pellets inflict massive trauma.
I have personally seen bird shot penetrate multiple layers of heavy clothing, break bone, and turn internal organs into jelly.
Dude had an entrance wound about the size of a 50-cent piece, but no exit.

 

I've not ever tried it, but I bet 00 buck would go through a steel front door or 2 layers of car door steel without stopping. I wonder how many layers of sheet rock and 2x4s that would be? I may want to rethink my old home defense shotgun rounds. Don't want to go all the way through the house by accident.

 

I'd think you'd be better off with a bonded slug in 2 3/4.

Also notice how prices are almost at like Hillary winning still at a lot of fun stores? It seems like their pricing is all automated and still driven up by the wholesalers anticipation of fear buying.

 

00 buck will go right though an exterior door, or car door, or interior wall. One of the products we build is bullet proof safe rooms.

 

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - The Box O' Truth

Sheetrock tests of 00 buck, slugs, birdshot and #4 buck

 

He says #4 buck penetrated 6 sheets of drywall (not an accurate test anyway, as he later points out), and then he says it doesn't have enough power to penetrate to internal organs?
Wat?

 

Yes , drywall is easy to penetrate . He really should have tested by shooting a pig roast.

 

First off, everything penetrates drywall really well. Handguns, shotguns, rifles, etc. Everything. Even glaser safety slugs will penetrate multiple layers of drywall. Drywall is really worthless as a barrier to block bullets.

IIRC, the surprise answer to what penetrates the least amount of drywall is.... 5.56/223. It breaks up very quickly upon striking drywall. Generally speaking, anything with small projectiles and very high velocity seems to have weak ability to penetrate lots of cover.

Due to their massive size and relatively slow velocity, shotgun slugs are the worst option. Shot isn't much better at close range- the wad/shot will still be one giant clump of lead for quite a distance, even with a cylinder choke.

Another option is to fill the space between the drywall sheets with sand, but I'm not sure what sort of complications this could create with all the conduits and stuff running through the wall.

 

Agreed on this with the (hopefully obvious) caveat that 223 penetration is largely dependent upon bullet construction. That is one reason that I prefer to use a rifle for HD.