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Old 01-13-2017, 12:29 PM
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Got a little more clarification on regulations here for when we can apply for our licence; we're allowed a semi-auto rimfire rifle (ruger 10/22 etc) and even an AR15 in .22RF. Full-bore rifles only in straight pull or bolt action. Yesterday we got to shoot an AK74M in .223 but it was straight-pull, so manually chamber each round with the charging handle, no gas system at all. Can do .308/.338 etc on a bolt action platform if you can provide a good reason to shoot those calibres. Am I wrong for sticking to a .22 bolt action tack driver for now, especially with our intended indoor use and relatively short ranges? I like the AR15 platform as much as the next person but the .22RF versions go for $800+ here. Not sure I want to go that route for our first rifle now. They do exist in a .223/5.56 version but again only in straight-pull variation. .22 is also of course cheap as hell to shoot compared to anything bigger here.
If you ever get to the States in the MD/DC area let me know I'll take you to the range and let you shoot whatever you want, I have a safe full of fun stuff including AK's in every caliber they make them in, Several AR's bolt action sniper rifles, SKS, various handguns etc. My wife is English and one of my favorite hobbies is taking English people to the range so they can get a healthy dose of Merica and freedom shooting stuff they can only see in movies etc.....

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If I was buying a 22lr for target shooting it surely wouldn't be on an ar15 platform. There are plenty of bolt or lever action choices I would choose first.

My father in law is giving his Henry Golden Boy to me in his will when he passes. It's not been fired. I have always thought those were handsome little rifles.
Especially because he can get Anschutz and CZ's and Sakos without spending 3 times as much as a savage.
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:08 AM
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Thanks again for all the suggestions guys, really appreciate it. I'll be stalking guntrader uk now
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Morning fun...
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:19 AM
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This is my dad's Browning A5 semi-automatic shotgun. It was passed down to him by my great grandfather and now to me.

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It's like a work of art. But I still plan to use it regularly because that's what Mr. Browning would have wanted.
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Just sold/traded my AR10... getting a Mossy 930 breacher and $800 cash in the deal. I'm happy with the deal, although losing about $300 total in the deal based on my costs. I feel a bit lucky to get for it considering the very saturated market right now. Dude buying it is getting a helluva deal. But, that $800 buys me a Ruger American Predator in 6.5CM AND the MDTTAC LSS chassis. I just need to make sure I don't want to go with a Savage after all... tough choice.

Also looking for the best Atlas knockoff and trying to figure out what stock I want on the LSS... a Magpul STR might be the way to go.
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Was cleaning my gun cases up over the weekend and found some spare parts I don't need.
Any idea what the value would be of an unused PSA upper receiver build kit and a set of slightly used MBUS?
Would like to trade them for a sling and M-LOK swivel, but wanted your opinions before I take them by the LGS.

I have the build kit because I ended up going with a slick-side upper and the ALG rail has the barrel nut.
I have the MBUS because something is wrong with my eyes. I had them on the rifle for 50 rounds. I can barely see past 50 yards.
I can see white paper targets a little fuzzy at 100 yards, which is how I sighted it in. But when I went to shoot steel plate, I just can't see it.
Was a good excuse to buy a scope.
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Originally Posted by Guardiola
Was cleaning my gun cases up over the weekend and found some spare parts I don't need.
Any idea what the value would be of an unused PSA upper receiver build kit and a set of slightly used MBUS?
Would like to trade them for a sling and M-LOK swivel, but wanted your opinions before I take them by the LGS.

I have the build kit because I ended up going with a slick-side upper and the ALG rail has the barrel nut.
I have the MBUS because something is wrong with my eyes. I had them on the rifle for 50 rounds. I can barely see past 50 yards.
I can see white paper targets a little fuzzy at 100 yards, which is how I sighted it in. But when I went to shoot steel plate, I just can't see it.
Was a good excuse to buy a scope.
Normal street prices: PSA upper build kits are $30, and a Gen2 MBUS set is $70. Sale prices $25 and $65 respectively... barely used shouldn't hurt the value at all on the street, but it's gonna be worth half that as trade-value at an LGS. What color is the MBUS set?
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Black. Front, rear, and adjustment tool in a fancy ziploc.
I still have the original packaging, just a little torn.
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I'd put those up on NCGunOwners or CarolinaShootersClub and ask $70 for both face-to-face... you'll get way more than the LGS will give you in trade.
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Simply ******* amazing...
PSA 16" Freedom Rifle & Glock 42 .380acp Pistol

This is pretty telltale of how far the bottom has dropped out of the firearm market, particularly entry-level AR's.
The standard going street price for a G42 is $400... that makes this PSA Freedom AR15 a $350 gun. True, the math doesn't work that way for PSA, but I think it's an indicator that we haven't seen the bottom of the market yet. I predict prices will drop even lower as the majority of the country is no longer afraid of Hillary.

Hell, on the front page of PSA today, you can get an MOE Lower for $150 and a Freedom upper w/BCG-CH for $250... that's $400 for one of the better entry-level AR15's on the market. Their MOE/EPT with a decent trigger is on sale for just $10 more.

Bring on the HPA!

PS: if anybody has a PSA stamped milspec stock, lemme know, I need one to complete a build.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Simply ******* amazing...
PSA 16" Freedom Rifle & Glock 42 .380acp Pistol

This is pretty telltale of how far the bottom has dropped out of the firearm market, particularly entry-level AR's.
The standard going street price for a G42 is $400... that makes this PSA Freedom AR15 a $350 gun. True, the math doesn't work that way for PSA, but I think it's an indicator that we haven't seen the bottom of the market yet. I predict prices will drop even lower as the majority of the country is no longer afraid of Hillary.

Hell, on the front page of PSA today, you can get an MOE Lower for $150 and a Freedom upper w/BCG-CH for $250... that's $400 for one of the better entry-level AR15's on the market. Their MOE/EPT with a decent trigger is on sale for just $10 more.

Bring on the HPA!

PS: if anybody has a PSA stamped milspec stock, lemme know, I need one to complete a build.
I have a couple customers who're aftermarket producers (mainly AR15 stuff) and they're both bitching about how business sucks now that Trump won. Kinda funny actually.
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:19 PM
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I'm not, nor probably ever will be, a business owner... but from the consumer side of the house, I know that firearms enthusiasts have a very long memory. I don't know how places like Botach and CTD stay in business when every single forum you visit ***** on them in every thread they pop up in. I have a few older shooting buddies who swear they will never buy a Ruger again after Bill sold out the country in the early 90's to help Clinton pass the '94 AWB. I remember a few years ago when RECOIL magazine almost folded after their 4th issue over a single article they penned... the shitstorm over a single sentence in an article resulted in the editor quitting.

For PSA specifically, I don't forget that just prior to Sandy Hook, you could buy a 10pk of lower receivers for $400 shipped... they've never sold multi-packs of receivers since then. Prices for their regular receivers are $80, and go down to $60 on sale, and $50 for blems nowadays, but only during HUGE sale periods (like SHOT). That kind of variation in price is hard to get past. And at $80 ea, they're more than regular Aero Gen2's that have a superior magwell and the supertits tension screw under the grip to take out play in the upper. I have no idea how anybody would pay $100 for a S&W lower, or $135 for a Ruger lower, or $150 for a Spikes lower... or a ****-ton more for one with a skull front of the magwell, when the Aero's are so awesome for so little. I just bought 2 for $60ea!

In any case, I think prices are still coming down... which sucks for the little guy since their profit margins just disappeared. Good for the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
I have a few older shooting buddies who swear they will never buy a Ruger again after Bill sold out the country in the early 90's to help Clinton pass the '94 AWB.
My wife's dad who was a hardcore collector and personal friends with Bill Ruger Sr. had him at his house many times. Times were different then and guns didn't have the same effect on our society and discourse they seem to now. Sr., from the few times I had occasion to talk to him, was a decent guy. Usually he would arrive to speak at the local F&G club where his old cronies would show up. Then his main claim to fame was the 10/22 and the 22LR pistol that he started with.

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Originally Posted by samnavy
I'm not, nor probably ever will be, a business owner... but from the consumer side of the house, I know that firearms enthusiasts have a very long memory. I don't know how places like Botach and CTD stay in business when every single forum you visit ***** on them in every thread they pop up in. I have a few older shooting buddies who swear they will never buy a Ruger again after Bill sold out the country in the early 90's to help Clinton pass the '94 AWB. I remember a few years ago when RECOIL magazine almost folded after their 4th issue over a single article they penned... the shitstorm over a single sentence in an article resulted in the editor quitting.
We do indeed. Botach and CTD will never have any of my business again after endless BS from Botach and price gouging by CTD after 'mass shootings'....

Old man Ruger had some very specific and very traditional ideas about what he wanted his company to build and sell. It was, however, his company and his choice to make. That said, his death was probably the best thing that ever happened to the company, business wise.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
This is my dad's Browning A5 semi-automatic shotgun. It was passed down to him by my great grandfather and now to me.

It's like a work of art. But I still plan to use it regularly because that's what Mr. Browning would have wanted.
The rounded bottom of the grip indicates it's an older one, the newer ones are flat. I think the mid 60s was the changeover. Make sure you're always using 2 3/4 shells and that thing will run like a clock for you. The newer ones that are actually marketed as A5s can use different shells but I'm pretty sure all of the light 12s are 2 3/4.

I have one myself, and I love it.
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Originally Posted by capitalcrew
The rounded bottom of the grip indicates it's an older one, the newer ones are flat. I think the mid 60s was the changeover. Make sure you're always using 2 3/4 shells and that thing will run like a clock for you. The newer ones that are actually marketed as A5s can use different shells but I'm pretty sure all of the light 12s are 2 3/4.

I have one myself, and I love it.
So do I it's from the 60's and is also Belgian made.
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Delta Team Tactical... placed my order 06Jan... got shipping-label-created notice yesterday... tracking shows it picked up and currently in Salt Lake City... should be here tomorrow. 3 WEEKS! I just sent Christina a polite email about customer expectations for "in stock" items and the benefits of under-promise and over-deliver in gaining repeat customers. All it would have taken is a "expect a 3-week wait" prior to handing over my money, and I probably would have bought anyways... her response will dictate any further purchases, because they do have some great deals and I'm willing to give their MLOK handguards a try for $50.

Granted, Amazon has us all spoiled, but that means they set the bar that the rest of the world must adapt to. 3 weeks wait for "in stock" items is unacceptable without a heads-up either on the main page or during checkout. I don't think I'm being a millennial douche who can't wait for his instant gratification (ie, first world problems)... it's just business.

Also, my Field and Stream mailer shows Maverick 88's for $180... about 5 years ago, I paid $204 shipped from Buds for one... then paid a $15 transfer fee.

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My pet peeve recently has been "Order before X:00PM and ships today!!!"...

By "ships today" they mean they create a shipping label/tracking number.... then it actually ships 2-3 days later.

Amazon has definitely set the bar, but even the 'guaranteed 2 day' prime shipping sometimes ends up 3-4 days.

Oh, well... first world problems...
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