Yet Another Gun Thread
#1662
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I gave this cokehead I knew like $50 for a Remington 870 11 years ago. I ran into him 2 years ago and he asked if I'd sell him the stock from it cause it had sentimental value. I'm like, "what? I converted that into a tactical like 11 years ago!" He was all bumbed out...guess he shoulda kept his nose clean.
#1664
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I used to have an SKS...traded it for a Mini-14...traded that for a DPMS M4 with a flattop receiver.
#1666
I've been thinking about getting an AR. This will strictly be a toy, plinkin' and what not.
I've done the homework on lowers and tried to price things out. I don't have a fear of a composite lower for how I intend to use this thing... so whaddya think about this guy:
http://newfrontierarmory.com/catalog...ducts_id=34089
I've done the homework on lowers and tried to price things out. I don't have a fear of a composite lower for how I intend to use this thing... so whaddya think about this guy:
http://newfrontierarmory.com/catalog...ducts_id=34089
#1668
You: "I got it from this dude at Autozone."
You: "I bought it from this guy in the gunshow parking lot."
You: "My buddy knows this kid who..."
It really doesn't matter what you say or how legit the situation was and has no bearing on what the LAW is... during your civil trial, unless you have the documentation that it was 100% legit, with a receipt from an actual "someplace" that performed a background check, the prosecution will make you look like a scumbag. Your lawyer will not be able to make it look any prettier either. Sometimes this is all it takes for a jury to get the impression that you're a guy who has been waiting his whole life to kill a dude under the guise of "defending myself" and now you're out $3 million to the family.
Just my advice... for personal defense weapons, buy from a retailer so you have all the documentation and the retailer of FFL can show proof that a NICS check was performed.
I know Pusha isnt' going to CCW a Sub2k, but if you shoot a guy with a gun you have no paperwork on, even if it's 100% justifiable and you are not charged with a crime, you will get anally raped in the civil trial because you're a lowlife redneck who buys guns on the black market in parking lots out of windowless vans. Just sayin.
#1672
bro, hindsight is always 20/20 and, looking back, I probably should have bought it. I'm not going to kick myself over the decision and I needed the cash for something else I had in the works at the time.
#1675
Again, you don't have to convince me, just saying if you haven't considered all the angles, then good luck in court.
For example, it is a certainty that if you involved in a shooting where you use a DAO pistol or any revolver, the prosecution will attempt to paint you as a thug because you chose a gun without a safety. It's been argued in civil cases that a Glock is an "unsafe" gun because of it's lack of a traditional "safety", and a prosecution will try to use this fact to give the jury the idea that you may have been so excited during the moment that you actually accidentally fired the gun, and you need to pay the family for accidentally killing some guy.
Prosecutors will do the same thing if they learn your gun has had any custom work done to it. A trigger job for example makes it very easy for any good lawyer to convice a jury that you intentionally modified your gun to make it "easier to kill people with".
Again, you don't have to convince me, but if you haven't thought about this ---- and made a conscious decision about how/what you carry, then good luck.
#1679
I guess I'm doing too much reading, but I think I am a bit paranoid. In any case it's almost a certainty that even if there are no charges pressed from a criminal standpoint, you're going to need a lawyer, and there will be plenty of lawyers looking at you with the intent of contacting the family to represent them in court. Any little thing they find will be fuel to the fire for the lawyers to convince the family to file.
I don't want them to get that far. Weapon choice, purchasing method, ammo used, training, everything you've ever said on the internet, etc... will all be just as critical as the actual facts of the event. Everything about your life and weapons will be scrutinized and it will all be used against you to prove to the jury that you were a madman lying in wait for years for the opportunity to kill. If you haven't thought about this stuff at least once, and decided for yourself that you're good with your choices, then you're behind the curve no matter what the hypothetical future has in store.
And I'm not against the general purchasing of weapons dude-to-dude in parking lots, but in keeping with my general "give nothing to the lawyers" motto, I wouldn't use one for SD. Range toy yes, but I think it's the same thing as when your mom told you "You can't choose who you fall in love with", and your dad said "Your mom is right, but you know that **** come in different sizes, right?"
I don't want them to get that far. Weapon choice, purchasing method, ammo used, training, everything you've ever said on the internet, etc... will all be just as critical as the actual facts of the event. Everything about your life and weapons will be scrutinized and it will all be used against you to prove to the jury that you were a madman lying in wait for years for the opportunity to kill. If you haven't thought about this stuff at least once, and decided for yourself that you're good with your choices, then you're behind the curve no matter what the hypothetical future has in store.
And I'm not against the general purchasing of weapons dude-to-dude in parking lots, but in keeping with my general "give nothing to the lawyers" motto, I wouldn't use one for SD. Range toy yes, but I think it's the same thing as when your mom told you "You can't choose who you fall in love with", and your dad said "Your mom is right, but you know that **** come in different sizes, right?"
#1680
Mississippi's Castle Doctrine stipulates that you cannot be held liable in a civil trial if you are cleared of criminal charges in matters of self defense. I know not all states have Castle Doctrines, not all Castle Doctrines include this stipulation, and not all righteous shootings will immediately be cleared as self-defense.
Believe me, I watch the local news and follow the results of trials here. I'm not being cavalier about this.
Believe me, I watch the local news and follow the results of trials here. I'm not being cavalier about this.