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Old 10-26-2009, 08:11 PM   #1
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tentative 2010 schedule:

jan. 30th - msr-houston
mar. 13th - msr-cresson
apr. 24th - tws (ccw)
jun. 12th - hallett
jul. 30th - tws (cw)
oct. 2nd - ecr (eagle's canyon)

with another possible event @ hhr in feb or may.

we would need at least 10-15 competitor's per event to make it worthwhile. is this possible? if there isn't enough interest we can shitcan the whole idea. let's make it happen. last event there were six of us out of 20 there. these dates wouldn't change if it rained either. get tough.

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I could make 3-5 events most likely. However we should probably call it "Miata Conquest" or "Miata Oddessey" so we don't get sued by the Miata Challenge people.
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what about Grandsport?

Looks like I need to pick-up a little truck.
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We could make it real simple and call it Texas Miata Challange...

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Are you thinking Miata-only days?

What do you think of a Friday afternoon Test-n-Tune session at each of the tracks? Wouldn't that allow for the best bang for the buck and flexibility?

I know H2R has that as an option. With something like 40 cars, a Friday afternoon costs ~$115 each.

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oops! logged in under jakes name
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unfortunatly no. i don't believe that we would be able to get 40 cars per event. plus that track rental is at hhr. i'm sure the other tracks would be more expensive, nobody would have timing equip., what about insurance, what about newbs/instructors. if you wanna organize something like for a miata day, be my guest. i will def. be there.

no, as far as a challenge goes, i think the easy solution would be to piggy back another event. all those dates posted are nasa tx. events. with nasa we would get 5-6 twenty min. sessions. anyone wanting to come out could compete even if it was their first time at a track. there would be instructors for them or anyone that wanted some help. nasa rents amb transponders and prints time sheets after every single session. we would be following all nasa rules during the event, only we would be compiling lap times for all challenge drivers for our own use. all nasa events are 2 days, sat. and sun. for the challenge only 1 day will be used. (saturday) this will make it easier on the wallet for challenge drivers and also make it easier for some to get away from work or wives/kids, etc... one date that might change is tws in april to the. if they have an enduro on sat. we would only get 3 sessions before the enduro started. so that will most likely change to april 25th (sun.) also, the challenge portion will only be on one day. if you show up sunday the trophy's and points will have already been given out on sat. it happens rain or shine, so don't puss out. although, you will be able to drop your 2 worst events, or miss 2 events and still have a chance at the championship.
one thing we need some input on is entry fee. not for the nasa event, but for the challenge. i'm thinking $10 is cheap enough to keep from breaking everyone's wallet, but still enough to cover the cost of trophy's and maybe some sticker's or something. if enough people enter, any extra $$ could go to extra trophy's (for 2nd or even third place) and to the championship trophy's (which i think should be extra awesome) and prizes.
should we do that? or just do championship trophy's at the end of the season? i personally think people would make a greater effort to attend and do good when there's a simple trophy to strive for.
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i wish we could do this...I'm almost motivated enough to buy a truck for it.
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i wish we could do this...I'm almost motivated enough to buy a truck for it.
i'm probably driving my car to most of these events, but then again, i am pretty hardcore! lol.......
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i wish i had a 2nd car. Although a friend of mine has a 2nd miata that is down and we are itching to do something with it. To bad the oil field is down and he doesnt have the funds to work on it right now, and my teacher salary doesnt let me run two cars and a masters at the same time

would there be classes or would everyone be lumped in to one?
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three classes (street, modified, unlimited)
classing system here: Miata Challenge
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unfortunatly no. i don't believe that we would be able to get 40 cars per event.
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plus that track rental is at hhr. i'm sure the other tracks would be more expensive,
TWS is notoriously expensive.

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no, as far as a challenge goes, i think the easy solution would be to piggy back another event. all those dates posted are nasa tx. events. with nasa we would get 5-6 twenty min. sessions. anyone wanting to come out could compete even if it was their first time at a track. there would be instructors for them or anyone that wanted some help. nasa rents amb transponders and prints time sheets after every single session. we would be following all nasa rules during the event, only we would be compiling lap times for all challenge drivers for our own use. all nasa events are 2 days, sat. and sun. for the challenge only 1 day will be used. (saturday) this will make it easier on the wallet for challenge drivers and also make it easier for some to get away from work or wives/kids, etc... one date that might change is tws in april to the. if they have an enduro on sat. we would only get 3 sessions before the enduro started. so that will most likely change to april 25th (sun.) also, the challenge portion will only be on one day. if you show up sunday the trophy's and points will have already been given out on sat. it happens rain or shine, so don't puss out. although, you will be able to drop your 2 worst events, or miss 2 events and still have a chance at the championship.
That all sounds good to me. Maybe Ryan will weigh in on this.
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street 4 me i see
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Awesome! I hope a lot of guys come out for this.
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tentative 2010 schedule:

jan. 30th - msr-houston
mar. 13th - msr-cresson
apr. 24th - tws (ccw)
jun. 12th - hallett
jul. 30th - tws (cw)
oct. 2nd - ecr (eagle's canyon)

...get tough.
Alright, I'm throwing down the gauntlet.

Last Friday, I attended the Open Track Day at TWS, and I happened to score a personal best lap time (two minutes, two point zero seconds). I made a video of it, complete with top speeds and lateral G's. If anyone wants to call B.S., I can send you the Traqmate data file.

Although my time is easy to beat, it will serve as a temporary benchmark for TWS 2.9 CCW fastest lap ever.

You all have until April 24th to make a video with a lower lap time. If no one posts a video with a faster lap, I will retain bragging rights up until the Texas Miata Challenge.
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^^^^^

What did Rharris run (yellow stroker) on Friday? Post your setup please. I did a 2:07 in April of 08 in my POS Spec Miata no drafting...I'm faster now.
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Late apex turn 14 (last right hander, in the chicane) so you can get on the gas sooner for 15. Let the car drift up higher on the exit of 15 so you carry more speed onto the front straight. That should be good for a second. The chicane (going CCW) is all about getting the best possible drive onto the front straight; the straight is so long, about 1/2 a mile from transition to transition (no ****), every bit of chicane exit speed counts.

I'd tell you more but I plan to run a sub 2:00 and cannot give it ALL away
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If the dates are set my only question will be related to cost, I'm sure it may vary depending on location, but even a good idea is better than nothing.
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If the dates are set my only question will be related to cost, I'm sure it may vary depending on location, but even a good idea is better than nothing.
all events are $180 for 5-6 20min. sessions. only ones that will be a different price (probably less) will be hhr or others if we add dates.
you will need to rent an amb transponder for $40 iirc, unless you have a gps or beacon based lap timer. cannot be a stopwatch for official lap time.
if you do plan on using a gps (i.e. traqmate) or beacon (i.e. hotlap,etc..) system for lap times, it will be your responsibilty to report your laptimes. also, they must be verified. so depending on your system, you may have to take your laptop to download data to show your lap time. winners will be announced after the last session of the day. if you didn't turn in your fastest lap time and get it verified by someone, your not getting the points or the trophy. nasa prints out the laptimes (every lap, every driver) of every session a few minutes after the session ends. makes it much easier to keep track of. all nasa based events are 2 day events. 2 days cost $295. the miata challenge will be based on sat. only. you can stay and run sunday, but no points or lap times will count toward the challenge as that will have been done on sat. only day that will be different is the tws event in april. they will be having an enduro on sat. which will cut the day short, only 3 sessions. so the challenge will be on sunday for that event only. if you do the entire weekend, you will have a good practice early sat. for sundays event.

sorry about the book. tryin' to cover all possible questions that would arise regarding $$$.
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Spoolin,
Let' talk about what I need to do about licensing (if I don't give up on this car). I know NASA is open passing in the TT class, but what if I don't have a cage?

I'm down for MSR-C, ECR, and Hallett races pending reliability. I also live about 45-minutes from ECR and 75-minutes from MSR-C and have a somewhat comfy sofa for 1.
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