Alfa Romeo Club track days
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Always asshattery. This was done by a student. Not mine, I have stopped attending Alfa Club track days, although I did happen to be at PIR today for an autocross.
Greddygalant can elaborate when he has time. This is Turn 2 at PIR, the middle of the 3-turn chicane in the front straight. I don't quite understand how one does this. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 Edit: the student continued to run the rest of the day, and another instructor bravely volunteered to ride with him. |
Originally Posted by Mobius
(Post 1173235)
Always asshattery. This was done by a student. Not mine, I have stopped attending Alfa Club track days, although I did happen to be at PIR today for an autocross.
Greddygalant can elaborate when he has time. This is Turn 2 at PIR, the middle of the 3-turn chicane in the front straight. I don't quite understand how one does this. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1412577975 Edit: the student continued to run the rest of the day, and another instructor bravely volunteered to ride with him. |
yeah, way too much speed, R comps and novice drivers really don't mix well, Im just glad nobody was seriously injured although I did spend a good portion of last night in the ER getting checked out, its a bummer you didn't have a harness on the passenger side or else I could have worn my HANS.
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On the list before next season is a second harness, and a Hans.
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We do our best to deter newbies from running R comps at our local events. Shits make their heads too big.
Hope you're alright GreddyG. |
Yeah. I use them because they are 100 dollar sm takeoffs and are cheaper than even the cheap street tires I use. I just needed to slow down and drive within my limits.
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I've not heard of any track days local to me that allow the instructor to have nonidentical safety equipment to the driver. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Schuyler
(Post 1173315)
I've not heard of any track days local to me that allow the instructor to have nonidentical safety equipment to the driver. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1173314)
Yeah. I use them because they are 100 dollar sm takeoffs and are cheaper than even the cheap street tires I use. I just needed to slow down and drive within my limits.
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Way to show up here and own it. I'm glad nobody was seriously injured and that you can be more cautious in the future. Let the instructor push you to go faster, not tell you to slow down. IMO you want the instructor to be saying things like "brake a little later, go a little faster into that next turn.."
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Originally Posted by hornetball
(Post 1173333)
And use the cheap street tires. You're not learning a darn thing on the R-comps. You're not there to "win," you're there to learn, right?
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Right, well we're saying the advice from someone else was retarded.
Street tires aren't $100/tire, my Neo Gens will run you $82/tire shipped to your door, and some other Hankooks that would be great would run you $66/tire. My Neo Gens have lasted 3 track seasons, and still have life left in them. Your $100 tires are a good deal, but they'll last 2-3 track days at the most. That might be a season for some people, but if you get serious into track days, that'll be $200-$300 in tires per season, instead of closer to ~$125/season for street tires that will also make you a better driver too. Just friendly advice, that's all. Sorry to hear of the damage. Doesn't look too bad and I'm glad all involved are not permanently injured. |
Thanks for the advice. I will probably get something figured out by next season.
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Originally Posted by greddygalant
(Post 1173309)
yeah, way too much speed, R comps and novice drivers really don't mix well, Im just glad nobody was seriously injured although I did spend a good portion of last night in the ER getting checked out, its a bummer you didn't have a harness on the passenger side or else I could have worn my HANS.
My question would be how did you let the novice get to that point? There must have been indications of driving over his head. |
It was really crowded and was the first time I was on that straight without someone in front of me.
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Originally Posted by Schuyler
(Post 1173315)
I've not heard of any track days local to me that allow the instructor to have nonidentical safety equipment to the driver. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by shlbygt
(Post 1173393)
My question would be how did you let the novice get to that point?
There must have been indications of driving over his head. |
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1173314)
Yeah. I use them because they are 100 dollar sm takeoffs and are cheaper than even the cheap street tires I use. I just needed to slow down and drive within my limits.
I have friends who have run Continentals on their Mustangs from the Continental Tire Series with mixed results. Each set behaved differently. With those tires you have no idea whether the tires were run for a short stint because of a caution, an entire fuel run or more. Whether it was on the front/ rear or left/right side and how many heat cycles are on it. A "set" of tires may be the four best tires left over from different race tracks over a number of events. Then again a novice should not be running track tires in the first place. |
I just bought some Federal RSR's for 68 a tire + shipping. Came out to $320ish. Had a friend mound and balance.... there are plenty of good options out there for less than 100 per tire.
I agree on running street tires while learning. |
Originally Posted by shlbygt
(Post 1173393)
I use the Safety Solutions / Simpson R3 H&N device when I instruct since it works with stock three point belts.
My question would be how did you let the novice get to that point? There must have been indications of driving over his head. |
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