Braineack

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maybe Joker was in the porsche?

sixshooter

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240_to_miata

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IK the old pavement sucked at lime rock but jeez. Most people crash at the crest of the hill, not before it.

So glad its nice and smooth now

GeneSplicer

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And just to back up Steve's statement... Porsche drivers are asshats - which is why you won't see me at any PCA event - ever.

curly

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Ha, our PCA events are awesome. Fairly slack rules, and about 3 porsches that break down anyways.

RyanRaduechel

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Causes multimillion dollar "racecar" thing to flip over. Then flips him off. Seems legit.

hustler

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When something the width of a motorcycle is at your fender, it's hard to remember that its 5' wider on each side at the rear...because you don't know what you don't see.

RyanRaduechel

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Whether it was a normal car, with a normal front track width he still would've drilled him in the side. He got sideways and couldn't gather it up in time. Maybe the delta wing should've given more space when passing him, but still, it's a little ridiculous to flip the guy off after crashing him.

hustler

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Deltawing should have picked a safer place to pass. The fast class drivers sometimes seem to believe that slow cars should unload and leave the track when they come to pass. There is enough blame to spread around. The Deltawing never presented itself before making a pass during corner entry and got tangled up.

RyanRaduechel

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That's what I meant, it was a bad place to pass, plus he was crowding him when he did pass. So you are right, the blame can be spread. I was just commenting on giving the dude the bird. Is the delta wing still filling the prototype slot or whatever it is? Or is it actually racing other cars?

hustler

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I don't know but it being so narrow up front and so wide in the back is a huge problem.

GeneSplicer

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Bad place to pass - hell no. People pass on the top of 11 into 12 ALL the time - hell Batman was already side by side before the bridge when he got punted by Green Lantern. The Porsche guy should have been aware - if he honesty couldn't see the wing, then something needs to be done to the wing to make it much more obvious. The blaze orange mirrors and peaks of the cage aren't cutting it.

I think is that the Porsche driver had no idea batman was behind him as it's profile is so small - you got it right about being 'used' to normal car width...
Alos, his car might have also been upset b/c those 10b gators are rough and can be unforgiving - and he was all over them which might explain the 'sudden' jerk into the track. Watching the race, most stayed clear of them.

What's even more alarming is how easily that wing flipped... like my old Honda 3 wheeler.

hustler

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I drive this track all the time on Forza, come at me.

Ryan_G

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I think that crash is just part of racing. I did not see anything that was blatantly wrong by either driver. The wing tried to make a tight pass and the other driver slightly lost control and they wrecked. It is just the nature of the sport.

On another note the wing finished 5th overall at Petit Le Mans which is rather impressive considering it started in the very back because it was a prototype. It passed 8 cars in the first lap.

DeerHunter

I think the "finger" in that picture is Photoshopped in. I watched the aftermath in the YouTube video and see no sign of an extended hand when the Deltawing driver threw up his hands in frustration.

sixshooter

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Deltawing finishing 5th would be more impressive if it was the same weight as the other cars in its class. Being significantly lighter because it was a not bound by the rules that the competing cars were held to gives quite a bit of false hope to the design.

Ryan_G

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I thought the whole idea was for it to fit into classing via power to weight ratio hence while it is like half the weight it has half the horsepower. I haven't really researched it, but from the handful of articles I have read about it, that was the point of it in the first place.

RyanRaduechel

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You know, I was kind of thinking the same thing. But wasnt sure.

GeneSplicer

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sixshooter

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2400lb 185whp turbo Miata vs. 4200lb 320whp SRT8 Dodge Challenger at the track - Same 13 lbs to 1 hp weight ratio but who laps faster?