Dude.
I'm about to Veyron swap my Miata, but it's just temporary cause next year I'm gonna koeniggsegg swap it with quintuple turbos for autox use. |
Sounds reasonable. Be sure to use at least two baskets. Don't want that Koeningsegg all in one.
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Originally Posted by Scaxx
(Post 1445573)
So you want to buy a transmission that costs $1700-2000 alone and weighs an extra 70 lb. Then fabricate an adapter plate as well as all the other pieces to make them work together? All because that way you can eventually bolt an LS up to it and "throw" a big turbo on it and take it to the half mile? Am I getting that right? Not sure you fully realize how much effort, time, and money any of the ideas you've suggested will take.
Also, just as a heads up, the intake manifold on the LS is plastic and if you throw a big turbo at it it might crack. I have access to CNC machines so making an adapter plate should be fairly easy. and there are kits out for the 8.8 rear end already so other than the adapter plate, trans mounts and driveshaft it shouldn't be too bad. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1445576)
Dude.
I'm about to Veyron swap my Miata, but it's just temporary cause next year I'm gonna koeniggsegg swap it with quintuple turbos for autox use.
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1445585)
Sounds reasonable. Be sure to use at least two baskets. Don't want that Koeningsegg all in one.
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Ok, let's start over:
There are 3 types of people here: 1) ones that bring a big game 2) ones that talk a big game 3) ones that do neither of the above So far, you came in here talking like a hardcore know-it-all baller builder with tons of super expensive parts and awesome tools/machinery at your disposal, and goals that many (most?) here have never even attempted to set because they're so optimistic. After seemingly looking for input, you ignored it all and basically told us that you're here to show us how its done, because you're so awesome and we're all dumb. Then you posted some super random cropped manifold picture, and a picture of two loose turbos on a shelf. In other words, you're like the 5 billionth n00b to do this, and we've seen it so often that it's getting boring at this point. The only reason I haven't banned you for creating a duplicate profile, after your original one was banned for being a 'tard, is because I'm really hoping that at least most of your claims are legitimate, and you're at least half as awesome as you think you are, and will actually deliver a worthwhile build thread building a really nasty boosted Miata. So now that I lovingly chewed up the info, put it into a spoon, and slid it into your pouty little lips, would it be fair to ask you for more pictures, and actual progress on your car? No more dreaming, no more crying, just pictures and progress now |
Before you think that 18 PSI is being mean, he pretty much hit the nail on the head on all the big talking dreamers we've had here who were going to show us just exactly how to do it the right way since we are all a bunch of dumbasses.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1445593)
Ok, let's start over:
There are 3 types of people here: 1) ones that bring a big game 2) ones that talk a big game 3) ones that do neither of the above So far, you came in here talking like a hardcore know-it-all baller builder with tons of super expensive parts and awesome tools/machinery at your disposal, and goals that many (most?) here have never even attempted to set because they're so optimistic. After seemingly looking for input, you ignored it all and basically told us that you're here to show us how its done, because you're so awesome and we're all dumb. Then you posted some super random cropped manifold picture, and a picture of two loose turbos on a shelf. In other words, you're like the 5 billionth n00b to do this, and we've seen it so often that it's getting boring at this point. The only reason I haven't banned you for creating a duplicate profile, after your original one was banned for being a 'tard, is because I'm really hoping that at least most of your claims are legitimate, and you're at least half as awesome as you think you are, and will actually deliver a worthwhile build thread building a really nasty boosted Miata. So now that I lovingly chewed up the info, put it into a spoon, and slid it into your pouty little lips, would it be fair to ask you for more pictures, and actual progress on your car? No more dreaming, no more crying, just pictures and progress now |
Carbon fiber shaft and $4000 electronics.
Photoes plaz. |
Stop telling us what will be, just show us what is. And it's not fucking 929 racimg, unless you pulled it from a Mazda 929. I'd give you an infraction for retardedness just for that, plus your paint scheme on the front fenders.
What have you built in the past? |
thanks for the pics, at least we can see somewhat where you're starting.
it looks like it will need a TON of work. probably more than if you were to start with a stock car, but at least there are some nice parts there. looks like it was trashed though |
That's not a tubular subframe.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1445800)
Stop telling us what will be, just show us what is. And it's not fucking 929 racimg, unless you pulled it from a Mazda 929. I'd give you an infraction for retardedness just for that, plus your paint scheme on the front fenders.
What have you built in the past? 949* Racing twin disk It says on that picture the fender will be painted if you read under the picture. They came like that and I it's pointless to paint them while I'm building the car.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1445810)
thanks for the pics, at least we can see somewhat where you're starting.
it looks like it will need a TON of work. probably more than if you were to start with a stock car, but at least there are some nice parts there. looks like it was trashed though
Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1445811)
That's not a tubular subframe.
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1445822)
Milspec engine, disconnect
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1445822)
Milspec, engine disconnect
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I want to see past fab work. Something simple and nice.
It is a major cash consuming lump at this point. Good luck with the whole process. Moddin' ain't easy bro. |
Like 18psi said looks like you have some nice part's and the beginnings of something. What's the back story on the car? What was the guy before you planing with it and where did he stop and you pickup? Looks like it been sitting for a while and needs some clean up but that's how it goes. Where are you going to start the build process, the bolt on stuff or the fab stuff? Is the entire wire harness dogshit? It's definitely a project and you have set the bar pretty high coming in here swinging your dick around and it would be interesting to see how you pull off the final product. Good luck though.
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^^^ totally.
Are those drifting front control arms? |
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1445847)
?
Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1445853)
I want to see past fab work. Something simple and nice.
It is a major cash consuming lump at this point. Good luck with the whole process. Moddin' ain't easy bro.
Originally Posted by mitymazda
(Post 1445857)
Like 18psi said looks like you have some nice part's and the beginnings of something. What's the back story on the car? What was the guy before you planing with it and where did he stop and you pickup? Looks like it been sitting for a while and needs some clean up but that's how it goes. Where are you going to start the build process, the bolt on stuff or the fab stuff? Is the entire wire harness dogshit? It's definitely a project and you have set the bar pretty high coming in here swinging your dick around and it would be interesting to see how you pull off the final product. Good luck though.
I'm starting development with a well known company that specializes in making parts to adapt transmissions to other engines this coming week. I hope to have a solid solution by the end of the month. We'll see. |
Originally Posted by mitymazda
(Post 1445866)
^^^ totally.
Are those drifting front control arms? |
Dam, I really wanted to see a mil spec BP.
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1445870)
https://www.prowireusa.com/p-1490-61...-conn-kit.aspx
Coming from building Audi's this is cheap. The only things to fab are the harness, the intercooler piping, the downpipe/exhaust and the transmission solution, everything else bolts up. I don't want to use any of the factory harness. I'm not swinging my dick, I'm just not an idiot/newb to (fast)cars and have access to other inputs from industry professionals but it's obviously nice to have input from the turbo miata community as well. I'm starting development with a well known company that specializes in making parts to adapt transmissions to other engines this coming week. I hope to have a solid solution by the end of the month. We'll see. |
It's ok, just let it happen. It's funnier this way.
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:laugh: yup
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Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1445996)
Why wouldnt you just use the Kmiata trans solution? I dont understand, its not like we haven't been trying to find a solution for the last 5 years. K pretty much nailed it.
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446050)
I can have a better trans for less money than their kit.
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They aren't terribly high priced.
Just as a point of interest, a bellhousing already exists for the T101 or Muncie style transmission to the BP engine through Lakewood or someone. Can be purchased through Summit Racing. |
Ok now Im dying to see what you come up with.
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09G
/thread |
Oh. Looks like i have $4000 in electronics, too!
BRB going 200mph. |
Originally Posted by Monk
(Post 1445864)
#newrodtho |
Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1446071)
Ok now Im dying to see what you come up with.
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20 E dollars says nothing spectacular from this build, inside of a year. Nothing.
So far I see zero evidence of fab skills necessary to take on the above stated challenges.. |
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446050)
I can have a better trans for less money than their kit. Finding a trans solution isn't that hard. Take a look at how many other platforms adapt transmissions. All comes down to will and knowledge.
If by better you mean heavier and shitty shiftst.......then yes, yes you can! :facepalm: |
Just to give you guys an update I'm now looking at the CD009 Nissan transmission. It weighs about 125 lbs, heavier I know, but can support 1000+ whp, is a 6 speed and can be had from junkyards for $500 or less sometimes. New from Nissan it's only $1800.
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I'm still having trouble understanding any advantages to these transmission options you keep vomiting vs what's already available.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1446099)
I'm still having trouble understanding any advantages to these transmission options you keep vomiting vs what's already available.
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When do you install the drift lever?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1446102)
When do you install the drift lever?
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446101)
They wont break at 500 whp.
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did you buy that fender from a drifter?
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446103)
No drifting, just road courses. The NA chasis is probably one of the worst cars for drifting of all time.
We are used to seeing "pie in the sky" build ideas that don't bear any fruit. Please excuse the naysayers if you do make this happen. You must understand the basis for their beliefs your project will not pan out. I hope it works out, but I'm understandably cautious. |
He's like the 12th n00b this year to suggest the Nissan z trans lolol
It might be strong, but it absolutely sucks at shifting fast or working well at high rpm. Also not one, not a single one, of the previous dreamers actually made anything happen. just talk |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1446104)
You would be the first person to tell us that the BMW transmissions break at 500whp. Please quote sources?
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-6-SPEED-TRANY
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1446105)
did you buy that fender from a drifter?
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1446108)
Yes, it is. Thank you for knowing it. Low polar moment of inertia and all that.
We are used to seeing "pie in the sky" build ideas that don't bear any fruit. Please excuse the naysayers if you do make this happen. You must understand the basis for their beliefs your project will not pan out. I hope it works out, but I'm understandably cautious. |
There was no report of a breakage in that thread you linked. The transmission reported as being "weak" anecdotally in that thread is not supported by the existing swap kit on the market. Reading is hard.
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No no no . We like innovation, well executed fabrication, better alternatives and we like conclusive test data. Nothing to do with hating. Well kinda... we hate on bull-shitters. Until we see something, like actual physical progression, you are no different than the guy at the bar who wants to talk cars. Its usually just bullshit, I just finish my beer and leave.
This place also has a pretty intense mob mentality filled with pretty intelligent people, so good luck. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0e25cc851c.png |
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446097)
Just to give you guys an update I'm now looking at the CD009 Nissan transmission. It weighs about 125 lbs, heavier I know, but can support 1000+ whp, is a 6 speed and can be had from junkyards for $500 or less sometimes. New from Nissan it's only $1800.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1446116)
There was no report of a breakage in that thread you linked. The transmission reported as being "weak" anecdotally in that thread is not supported by the existing swap kit on the market. Reading is hard.
Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1446118)
No no no . We like innovation, well executed fabrication, better alternatives and we like conclusive test data. Nothing to do with hating. Well kinda... we hate on bull-shitters. Until we see something, like actual physical progression, you are no different than the guy at the bar who wants to talk cars. Its usually just bullshit, I just finish my beer and leave.
Show me one person besides Emilio that can compete with that part list. Keep in mind all it need's to run as is is wiring harness and intercooler plumbing. |
are we supposed to be impressed you bought a car with all that stuff already?
also define: great suspension. cause tiens aren't it. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1446123)
are we supposed to be impressed you bought a car with all that stuff already?
also define: great suspension. cause tiens aren't it. It's no Ohlins but it's the next best thing I guess:ugh: TEIN Miata Mono Sport Coilover Kit for Miata 1990-2005 |
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446121)
I've read other places that it's not very strong but I just found one quickly. I want something that I'll never have to be concerned about. I know with either the T56 or CD009 I'll never make enough power to break them. If that doesnt make sense to you then I apologize.
Yea well I think I've shown a decent starting point. I mean I have arguably the best BP you can build ('99 1.9L, Weisco 10:1 pistons, carillo rods, ACL race bearings, full Ferrea head with +1 valves, ported, oil pan baffle) the strongest Miata transmission(quaife), great chasis components(cage, tubular control arms), great suspension, widebody for 15x12 6ULs, carbon/fiberglass body panels, Racepak logger dash with GPS speed, Haltech standalone, EGT's on each cylinder, Mispec wiring harness. Show me one person besides Emilio that can compete with that part list. Keep in mind all it need's to run as is is wiring harness and intercooler plumbing. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3cdf1475d4.gif |
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Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446121)
I've read other places that it's not very strong but I just found one quickly. I want something that I'll never have to be concerned about. I know with either the T56 or CD009 I'll never make enough power to break them. If that doesnt make sense to you then I apologize.
Yea well I think I've shown a decent starting point. I mean I have arguably the best BP you can build ('99 1.9L, Weisco 10:1 pistons, carillo rods, ACL race bearings, full Ferrea head with +1 valves, ported, oil pan baffle) the strongest Miata transmission(quaife), great chasis components(cage, tubular control arms), great suspension, widebody for 15x12 6ULs, carbon/fiberglass body panels, Racepak logger dash with GPS speed, Haltech standalone, EGT's on each cylinder, Mispec wiring harness. Show me one person besides Emilio that can compete with that part list. Keep in mind all it need's to run as is is wiring harness and intercooler plumbing. |
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446126)
Not necessarily, I'm just stating that it's not like I'm claiming to get all this cool stuff. I have it.
It's no Ohlins but it's the next best thing I guess:ugh: TEIN Miata Mono Sport Coilover Kit for Miata 1990-2005 |
:laugh: it just keeps getting better
"arguably the best BP you can build" :bowrofl: he's quickly climbing the ladder to fame here guyths |
Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1446131)
You arent up on some of our cars then.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1446136)
:laugh: it just keeps getting better
"arguably the best BP you can build" :bowrofl: he's quickly climbing the ladder to fame here guyths |
Originally Posted by Hairdressr
(Post 1446138)
Can you tell me what could have been better on the engine then?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1446139)
VVT head for one...
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Hairdresser what helmet do you use and what other safety gear are you looking at?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1446139)
VVT head for one...
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