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18psi 10-17-2017 11:56 AM

He's so clueless and stupid that he doesn't even know what he doesn't even know.

...like, where do you even start with someone like that.

When you're lacking in knowledge, just replace with arrogance. Nailed it.

sixshooter 10-17-2017 11:59 AM

Be nice, guys. I want to see where this goes.

concealer404 10-17-2017 12:00 PM

I'm posting in here that CD009s are super weak and i broke one with 150hp so you can read somewhere on the internet that it's weak and move on to another choice, preferably one that's harder and more expensive because nobody likes an easy bulletproof off the shelf option.

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1446143)
Hairdresser what helmet do you use and what other safety gear are you looking at?

I have a Simpson Carbon Bandit and alpine stars suit. I have a HANS device but cant recall the brand.


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446144)
Pistons that make sense for another....

How do these pistons not make sense when They're only for e85?

18psi 10-17-2017 12:03 PM

That's actually a brilliant idea.

In fact, here's a better one:

buy up 100's of Miata 1.6 5 speeds for literally pennies.

make multiple claims in multiple posts in multiple forums and bookface that the 1.6 Miata 5 speed is an overlooked gem of a trans that has been kept a secret for all these years.

wait a bit for the morans to absorb the info and regurgitate it everywhere.

sell each for thousands, make a killing.

Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446153)
How do these pistons not make sense when They're only for e85?

For dedicated e85 use they're low compression
for dedicated pump gas use they're high compression
for mixed use they're not ideal for either

no one's gonna explain the basics for you

mitymazda 10-17-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446153)
I have a Simpson Carbon Bandit and alpine stars suit. I have a HANS device but cant recall the brand.



How do these pistons not make sense when They're only for e85?


Oh no, I meant for daily walking around kinda stuff. That setup seems a bit over kill for your day to day slips and fails

18psi 10-17-2017 12:06 PM

it's for the bus

you never know with those short ones, best to stay safe

concealer404 10-17-2017 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446153)
How do these pistons not make sense when They're only for e85?

Limp peepee bad at everything.

For a best of everything engine, that's pretty un-special in every way. Kudos for springing for the unnecessary Carillo rods though. You, or whomever you bought that mess from sure knows how to burn money.

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...etc-etc-92363/

I'm having flashbacks. This dude even wanted a T56.

EO2K 10-17-2017 12:35 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...87ab37d876.jpg

flier129 10-17-2017 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446097)
Just to give you guys an update I'm now looking at the CD009 Nissan transmission. It weighs about 125 lbs, heavier I know, but can support 1000+ whp, is a 6 speed and can be had from junkyards for $500 or less sometimes. New from Nissan it's only $1800.

I've got several Z friends that would love your junkyard source of $500 cd009s. cd009s were developed in late 2005 and only present in 2006 Revup or 07-08 HR cars. cd001/cd006/cd008s all had some sort of synchro issue, so anytime a spare cd009 pops up, it get snatched up pretty quick..... supply<demand.


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446121)
Yea well I think I've shown a decent starting point. I mean I have arguably the best BP you can build ('99 1.9L, Weisco 10:1 pistons, carillo rods, ACL race bearings, full Ferrea head with +1 valves, ported, oil pan baffle) the strongest Miata transmission(quaife), great chasis components(cage, tubular control arms), great suspension, widebody for 15x12 6ULs, carbon/fiberglass body panels, Racepak logger dash with GPS speed, Haltech standalone, EGT's on each cylinder, Mispec wiring harness.

Show me one person besides Emilio that can compete with that part list. Keep in mind all it need's to run as is is wiring harness and intercooler plumbing.

Our lord and savior Madjak would like a word with you....

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446158)
Limp peepee bad at everything.

For a best of everything engine, that's pretty un-special in every way. Kudos for springing for the unnecessary Carillo rods though. You, or whomever you bought that mess from sure knows how to burn money.

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...etc-etc-92363/

I'm having flashbacks. This dude even wanted a T56.

What's your point with this thread?^^^ you know this car runs right? He wants me to buy his rear end but I want an 8.8.

Yes, they are unnecessary for 99% of the cars here but I would like to push mine further than most are pushed here if you couldn't tell;)

concealer404 10-17-2017 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446182)
What's your point with this thread?^^^ you know this car runs right? He wants me to buy his rear end but I want an 8.8.

Yes, they are unnecessary for 99% of the cars here but I would like to push mine further than most are pushed here if you couldn't tell;)

I'm saying you guys both have similar goals, are going/went about it similar ways, and had same wants initially.

I'm well aware the car runs. I am a previous owner of that car.

You have a lot of changes to be made to that motor if you want to push further than what has been pushed here.

18psi 10-17-2017 02:01 PM

the BP has been "pushed" to 850whp

I'm in for OP "pushing further".

sixshooter 10-17-2017 02:03 PM

When does pushing become shoving?

18psi 10-17-2017 02:04 PM

when you forget the lube

...I bet you a poz-cat he still thinks a random list of expensive parts is all it takes to build a fast Miata, or impress everyone here. Who even needs talent, or knowledge. This isn't an audi, after all.

sixshooter 10-17-2017 02:07 PM

Yeah, there's a 650 horsepower BP drag Miata near me. I'm not sure which transmission he selected for that.

18psi 10-17-2017 02:11 PM

CD069

EO2K 10-17-2017 02:14 PM

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Attachment 229708

concealer404 10-17-2017 02:26 PM

The fastest 1/4 mile BP isn't even in a Miata. GET GOOD, SCRUBS.

(Doesn't have Carillo rods either)

ryansmoneypit 10-17-2017 02:29 PM

Alright alright alright, if we want some quality material, we need to lighten up on this guy.

I wish we hadn't chased away that Super Pro Fabrication Welder Guy. Remember he was the one spouting about building twin turbo Lamborghinis? He then proceeded to incorrectly route the primaries on his twin scroll BP turbo, then we got those semi-psychotic rants. man I loved that stuff! Ya that dude..He had forgotten more than we will ever know too.

concealer404 10-17-2017 02:31 PM

I'm not familiar with that. Is it as good as the dude who was having the oil stolen out of his motor?

18psi 10-17-2017 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446200)
The fastest 1/4 mile BP isn't even in a Miata. GET GOOD, SCRUBS.

(Doesn't have Carillo rods either)

faster than 8sec and 850whp?

remind me who holds the records again plz

turbofan 10-17-2017 02:47 PM

came here to say this:

Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1446193)
...I bet you a poz-cat he still thinks a random list of expensive parts is all it takes to build a fast Miata, or impress everyone here. Who even needs talent, or knowledge. This isn't an audi, after all.

Epic parts list does not equal epic build. Anyone can be a credit card mechanic and buy a shit ton of parts. Proof: I did it. I even put a car together. But I wasn't pushing the envelope or doing anything new.

You have two choices here: prove you're capable of pushing the envelope by showing us other things you've completed which do so, OR stop trying to impress us unless you've done so here. You're not going to impress with a parts list and intentions.

concealer404 10-17-2017 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1446213)
faster than 8sec and 850whp?

remind me who holds the records again plz

It's some Starlet in PR. No idea on power, but it's deep 8s.

Braineack 10-17-2017 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1446201)
Alright alright alright, if we want some quality material, we need to lighten up on this guy.

I wish we hadn't chased away that Super Pro Fabrication Welder Guy. Remember he was the one spouting about building twin turbo Lamborghinis? He then proceeded to incorrectly route the primaries on his twin scroll BP turbo, then we got those semi-psychotic rants. man I loved that stuff! Ya that dude..He had forgotten more than we will ever know too.

:P I was the only really being an ass to him too...

Braineack 10-17-2017 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1446201)
Alright alright alright, if we want some quality material, we need to lighten up on this guy.

I wish we hadn't chased away that Super Pro Fabrication Welder Guy. Remember he was the one spouting about building twin turbo Lamborghinis? He then proceeded to incorrectly route the primaries on his twin scroll BP turbo, then we got those semi-psychotic rants. man I loved that stuff! Ya that dude..He had forgotten more than we will ever know too.

:P I was the only really being an ass to him too...

concealer404 10-17-2017 03:50 PM

Concrete evidence that the CD009 is hot trash: https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...2/#post1098092

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446244)
Concrete evidence that the CD009 is hot trash: https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...2/#post1098092

Cool story bro....:giggle:

concealer404 10-17-2017 04:33 PM

Funny, yes.

But you get the point, no?

18psi 10-17-2017 04:37 PM

I wonder how many lambo exhausts OP has built

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446254)
Funny, yes.

But you get the point, no?

Yea, the 300zx trans has issues, what's your point?

concealer404 10-17-2017 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446261)
Yea, the 300zx trans has issues, what's your point?

I believe you just made two points for me, with that comment. Reading is hard.

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 1446175)
I've got several Z friends that would love your junkyard source of $500 cd009s. cd009s were developed in late 2005 and only present in 2006 Revup or 07-08 HR cars. cd001/cd006/cd008s all had some sort of synchro issue, so anytime a spare cd009 pops up, it get snatched up pretty quick..... supply<demand.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7c437e9dda.png

Take your pic there's plenty

Our lord and savior Madjak would like a word with you....

Where's he at? link to build?

18psi 10-17-2017 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446265)
Where's he at? link to build?

Here you go bro:

Link to build thread

Enjoy

aidandj 10-17-2017 05:00 PM

Uh. none of those transmissions listed are cd009s though?

I see a bunch of early 2006 370z, or 2007 G35 with the DE not HR?

concealer404 10-17-2017 05:02 PM

ALL Nissan 6 speeds are CD009s. Duh.

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1446267)
Uh. none of those transmissions listed are cd009s though?

I see a bunch of early 2006 370z, or 2007 G35 with the DE not HR?

Watch and learn ;)

to sum it up the strong gear sets come in 2004+ 350z and 370z and g35s

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446268)
ALL Nissan 6 speeds are CD009s. Duh.

Watch my video, do some research. You don't know what you're talking about on this subject.

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1446266)
Here you go bro:

Link to build thread

Enjoy

Thanks, it's a cool setup.

concealer404 10-17-2017 05:12 PM

Why should i? You don't read links i post, instead choosing to make emotional and incorrect/irrelevant replies, maybe i will do the same.

flier129 10-17-2017 05:27 PM

That's a cool spreadsheet you made there.

ryansmoneypit 10-17-2017 05:38 PM

its just a general part# search query.

18psi 10-17-2017 05:56 PM

It's car-part.com

sixshooter 10-17-2017 07:03 PM

I know of a 1200whp 350z. I know nothing about their transmissions.

A friend of mine has one with 500 feet elbows of torque and slightly more horsepowers. Seems fine except for the the crappy clutch hydraulics, which seem to fail at odd times.

ridethecliche 10-17-2017 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1446158)
Limp peepee bad at everything.

For a best of everything engine, that's pretty un-special in every way. Kudos for springing for the unnecessary Carillo rods though. You, or whomever you bought that mess from sure knows how to burn money.

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...etc-etc-92363/

I'm having flashbacks. This dude even wanted a T56.

Just an FYI that the thread starter in the build thread posted above has been parting out and selling his setup on various FB groups while talking about how awesome it was. I don't think I ever saw the half mile or even quarter mile numbers... or even a dyno... from him ever.

concealer404 10-17-2017 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1446302)
Just an FYI that the thread starter in the build thread posted above has been parting out and selling his setup on various FB groups while talking about how awesome it was. I don't think I ever saw the half mile or even quarter mile numbers... or even a dyno... from him ever.

There's older dyno on the old setup. I dunno. Car has potential.

Savington 10-17-2017 07:44 PM

different is not the same as better

concealer404 10-17-2017 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1446313)
different is not the same as better

Being the bukkake-ee is different from being the bukkake-er.

EO2K 10-17-2017 08:14 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7e01a5ad27.gif

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1446313)
different is not the same as better

Until I decide to splurge on a Quaife QBE69G this 1000+whp capable rowboat tranny will have to suffice. If you have a better idea I'd love to hear. I've only got hate so far so I wouldn't expect much else here.

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1446302)
Just an FYI that the thread starter in the build thread posted above has been parting out and selling his setup on various FB groups while talking about how awesome it was. I don't think I ever saw the half mile or even quarter mile numbers... or even a dyno... from him ever.

I've seen his car in person, it's decent but you can see corners cut and design flaws. Not bad for a kid though.

18psi 10-17-2017 09:24 PM

oh yeah, nothing compared to how clean and properly done yours is

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 1446277)
That's a cool spreadsheet you made there.

Make sure to tell all your buddies, they must be clueless ;)

Hairdressr 10-17-2017 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1446336)
oh yeah, nothing compared to how clean and properly done yours is

lol....mine will be officially starting next week. Dont worry I'll keep it updated with pics. You can drool all you'd like:bigtu:

18psi 10-17-2017 11:52 PM

reserving saliva now :)

sixshooter 10-18-2017 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1446364)
reserving saliva now :)

You aren't fooling anybody. You've been collecting saliva in jars for years.

ryansmoneypit 10-18-2017 07:57 AM

I have to give Hairdresser some props here. He /she has taken a 7 page beating, has yet to be banned and is still posting. At least his skin is pretty thick.

hi_im_sean 10-18-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1446387)
I have to give Hairdresser some props here. He /she has taken a 7 page beating, has yet to be banned and is still posting. At least his skin is pretty thick.

Was just thinking this. We should quietly let him progress, just because of his shear tenacity. I mean he's not even being a dick.

18psi 10-18-2017 10:39 AM

Y'all don't really read, just like OP

lol

thumpetto007 10-18-2017 04:33 PM

Why are you guys attacking him? In like two pages alone there are 20k in new parts, minimum. Sure, he might be not following our formula for built bp engines using 200whp, but he has access to serious funds.

I'm jelly.

I also agree that vvt doesnt matter on track. if you are below 4k, you are in the wrong gear.

Also haven't read the whole thread lol... carry on


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