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aidandj 10-18-2017 04:48 PM

Thats stupid. My car makes flat torque from 3500-7000. Lets me shift less. Less shifting, faster lap times.

concealer404 10-18-2017 04:49 PM

Because he bought a pile of parts and a half finished project from someone else, didn't bother reading anything put in front of him, said everyone else sucks, that his stuff is the best, with no sort of evidence of any kind to back anything up.

It's like inheriting your Dad's bowling ball, then proclaiming to the world that you're the best bowler ever.

And you've never thrown a frame.

concealer404 10-18-2017 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1446515)
Thats stupid. My car makes flat torque from 3500-7000. Lets me shift less. Less shifting, faster lap times.

Your car makes flat torque from 3500-7000 if you start at 2000rpm. You're still in the wrong gear if you're south of 4000rpm.

aidandj 10-18-2017 04:55 PM

It will make 200ft/lbs at 3500rpm whether i start at 2krpm or 3400rpm.

concealer404 10-18-2017 05:01 PM

This is autism to the nth degree.

ryansmoneypit 10-18-2017 05:23 PM

Now all of you sound like a bunch of retards.

18psi 10-18-2017 05:28 PM

Lol @ troll thread brings all the trolls to the yard.

hi_im_sean 10-18-2017 05:31 PM

Can someone lock dis bitch up already? im unsubbing

acedeuce802 10-18-2017 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1446515)
Thats stupid. My car makes flat torque from 3500-7000. Lets me shift less. Less shifting, faster lap times.

Torque doesn't matter, power does. If not down shifting at 3500 RPM makes you faster, you are really slow at shifting. The fact that you have more power at higher RPM's (say 6000 vs. 3500, not sure of what the typical shift differential would be from a typical track gear) means you'd have much more torque at the wheels in the more appropriate gear. Unless your power drops off and you actually have more torque at the wheels in a higher gear, lower RPM.

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1446511)
Why are you guys attacking him? In like two pages alone there are 20k in new parts, minimum. Sure, he might be not following our formula for built bp engines using 200whp, but he has access to serious funds.

I'm jelly.

I also agree that vvt doesnt matter on track. if you are below 4k, you are in the wrong gear.

Also haven't read the whole thread lol... carry on

They hate me cause they aint me :dealwithit:

Thanks for being real and not hiding behind a curtain of envy. I really appreciate it and hope I get to show you what this build becomes.......if the hate doesn't consume the moderators.

aidandj 10-18-2017 11:04 PM

No envy here. Sounds like a big waste of money :D

I'm always consumed with hate. Don't take it personally. :fawk:

Still waiting on pictures. And Dyno plots.

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1446526)
Torque doesn't matter, power does. If not down shifting at 3500 RPM makes you faster, you are really slow at shifting. The fact that you have more power at higher RPM's (say 6000 vs. 3500, not sure of what the typical shift differential would be from a typical track gear) means you'd have much more torque at the wheels in the more appropriate gear. Unless your power drops off and you actually have more torque at the wheels in a higher gear, lower RPM.

It sounds like you're analyzing this in torque by gear when torque is typically measured at the gear that is or closest to 1. That's what the previous remark is referring to so you comment is like an orange to his apple.

turbofan 10-18-2017 11:15 PM

Still waiting on proof that you know what you're doing. Perhaps we will have it, and the lauding will commence.

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1446585)
No envy here. Sounds like a big waste of money :D

I'm always consumed with hate. Don't take it personally. :fawk:

Still waiting on pictures. And Dyno plots.

What do you want pictures of exactly? lol I just posted pictures like 3 days ago of the car and various parts. I will only get to work on the car 1-2 days per week as I'm also in the middle of an addition to my house(addiing on a 2400 sq ft garage) Want pics of that too?!? I should still have it cleaned up and running by the end of the year.

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1446592)
Still waiting on proof that you know what you're doing. Perhaps we will have it, and the lauding will commence.

Why don't you just chill out and be patient? It's only been like 2 weeks since I got the car. Being rude isn't going to make me build it any faster and whether I post other projects or don't wont change what I'm doing either and why would I want to prove my skills to people that are rude and demanding?

I was just as Zion a couple weeks ago and would have came and given you a hug if I'd known how in need you are of one:ky:

mitymazda 10-18-2017 11:29 PM

OP continue to build out your lair or adding a garage or whatever to your bridge, and let's see what you can make with the combination of someone else's project leavings and your brilliance. There is a opportunity to make the Nay Sayers eat crow, I don't think you can capitalize on it though.


​​​​​​.... on a related subject if you ignore aides does it just go away, or does it consume you like envy?

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1446595)
​​​​​​.... on a related subject if you ignore aides does it just go away, or does it consume you like envy?

ignore aides? who are these aides? I've only met trolls here.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3dffad4d9e.jpg

acedeuce802 10-18-2017 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446588)
It sounds like you're analyzing this in torque by gear when torque is typically measured at the gear that is or closest to 1. That's what the previous remark is referring to so you comment is like an orange to his apple.

Torque at the wheels changes, not torque at the motor.

Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:41 PM

Random pic of part of the garagehttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8e32dbf44.jpeg

mitymazda 10-18-2017 11:47 PM

Please move to built: big garage.... now what to do? thread. :giggle:

Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446601)


Hairdressr 10-18-2017 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1446603)
Please move to built: big garage.... now what to do? thread. :giggle:

Still lots to do. Insulation, drywall, siding, epoxy, lifts, shelving, paint, the floor above the garage, the floor above the floor above the garage.

Hairdressr 10-19-2017 12:00 AM

Random pictures of some other buildshttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4684c70b35.jpgv twin work
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b2bc2a7fc.jpegequal length
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bfa9b0a15.jpegbillet CNC IM
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1e135a3fc.jpegbig single
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e55be794ac.jpgacid dipped chasis
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fb04ede19.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...49bac40b8.jpeg3d printer test fit
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ebf1f2ffea.jpgDrysump
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1a0f658ccf.jpgclean

Braineack 10-19-2017 09:15 AM

if you post a lambo exhaust we'll all die.

18psi 10-19-2017 11:09 AM

audi, lambo, potato pohtahtoe :)

sixshooter 10-19-2017 12:27 PM

My buddy builds turbo systems for Audis and such.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ef6a110b5a.jpghttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...eda8843066.jpghttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9b92e17bb5.jpghttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2edfb11bda.jpghttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c2d97134c3.jpghttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cc41599660.jpghttps://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ee5320671f.jpghttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...82156e3a70.jpghttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...df6f8503e9.jpg

aidandj 10-19-2017 12:28 PM

#florida

Savington 10-19-2017 12:34 PM

Nobody will be impressed by that here. We value results over shiny build pics.

turbofan 10-19-2017 01:12 PM

So, how much of that stuff did you actually do? Were you the guy who installed the cone filters or did you fabricate the manifold? How did those builds perform?

Braineack 10-19-2017 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1446684)
So, how much of that stuff did you actually do? Were you the guy who installed the cone filters or did you fabricate the manifold? How did those builds perform?

now you sound like me when I do job interviews.

"well I was on the team that did XYZ..."

PASS

Hairdressr 10-19-2017 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1446675)
Nobody will be impressed by that here. We value results over shiny build pics.

People ask for pics, others tell me pics are worthless. There is no winning here.


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1446684)
So, how much of that stuff did you actually do? Were you the guy who installed the cone filters or did you fabricate the manifold? How did those builds perform?

I did all of it except the final welding. I can weld but I have friends that can better because it's their job. They performed well. Let me guess you're looking for dyno plots or time slips now?:facepalm:


I have a feeling no matter what I do it will never get the approval of the trolls here. Dont worry though, you Nancys dont bring me down:cool:

Hairdressr 10-19-2017 03:49 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...816b009e8b.jpg
Milspec is here. Has anyone here ever done a Milspec harness/plug?

psyber_0ptix 10-19-2017 07:23 PM

Maybe.

But not for cars.

concealer404 10-19-2017 07:35 PM

Nobody here has ever even HEARD of that WOW! What IS that?!?!??!

ryansmoneypit 10-19-2017 08:09 PM

Hairdresser, just continue your build and keep us updated with pictures.

mitymazda 10-20-2017 12:05 AM

I have a pipeline for some milspec fluid for ya if you want some....


Yeah it's real stuff, we use it for triggers mostly.

patsmx5 10-20-2017 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1446710)
Milspec is here. Has anyone here ever done a Milspec harness/plug?

I did long time ago for a racecar. It was super nice to use when it was built and we never had problems with it, but what a pain making all the harness/connectors was. Also tools were stupid expensive, I think the crimper alone was 500 bucks.

Hairdressr 10-21-2017 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1446808)
I did long time ago for a racecar. It was super nice to use when it was built and we never had problems with it, but what a pain making all the harness/connectors was. Also tools were stupid expensive, I think the crimper alone was 500 bucks.

Haha....as you see the crimper in the pic(it wasn't $500)

Pat, you're the guy I've wanted to see in here. You have a link to your build thread?

hi_im_sean 10-21-2017 10:01 AM

You can find almost any crimper you want, copied, from china, for under $100 these days. Its not like it was a few years ago. They are good enough for the home gamer.

I put these together at work. Incorporate service loops.

patsmx5 10-22-2017 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1447014)
Haha....as you see the crimper in the pic(it wasn't $500)

Pat, you're the guy I've wanted to see in here. You have a link to your build thread?

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...t-build-87547/

visceralsoup 10-23-2017 04:24 PM

Just read all of this. Holy shit I joined the right forum. Does not disappoint.

side note: I can't even be mad at the b5s4 stuff. I'm a sucker for a nice 2.7t

ryansmoneypit 10-23-2017 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by visceralsoup (Post 1447359)
Just read all of this. Holy shit I joined the right forum. Does not disappoint.

side note: I can't even be mad at the b5s4 stuff. I'm a sucker for a nice 2.7t

11 pages of basically " fuck you, we dont believe you so try to prove us wrong you little bitch".

18psi 10-23-2017 06:44 PM

I'm a pro.
Here's a picture of an engine
:dealwithit:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3c625ed531.jpg

visceralsoup 10-23-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1447397)
11 pages of basically " fuck you, we dont believe you so try to prove us wrong you little bitch".

all responses to this thread we're well deserved lol.

visceralsoup 10-23-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1447397)
11 pages of basically " fuck you, we dont believe you so try to prove us wrong you little bitch".


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1447408)
I'm a pro.
Here's a picture of an engine
:dealwithit:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3c625ed531.jpg

I bet that engine uses VAG fsi coils

hi_im_sean 10-23-2017 10:43 PM

Your mom's VAG uses my coil(s).

visceralsoup 10-23-2017 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by hi_im_sean (Post 1447453)
Your mom's VAG uses my coil(s).

http://i67.tinypic.com/2m4q6ud.jpg

mitymazda 10-23-2017 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by hi_im_sean (Post 1447453)
Your mom's VAG uses my coil(s).

​​​​​​​Get your coils checked....cuz you know...fail aides

visceralsoup 10-23-2017 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1447458)
Get your coils checked....cuz you know...fail aides

I actually had to replace my Golf R coils at like 45k. Heavy misfire at 30psi lol

mitymazda 11-01-2017 08:01 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fb37c40002.jpg

matrussell122 11-01-2017 08:07 PM

That looks like a shitty situation

mitymazda 11-01-2017 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1449229)
That looks like a shitty situation

Oh this isn't the baking thread.. well kookies on grape nuts folks!


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