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3.2.1 firmware update and now no tacho in TS

Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Hi fellas, i have a 93 1.6 and the car was running fine with 3.0.3s firmware. I updated to 3.2.1 and fried my ignitor in the process (i disconnected it while reflashing the firmware but then had the ignition on with the MS powered off). So i decided to go COP (4pin) and have them wired up as per instructions. Now the car won't start.
TS connects with the MS but when i try cranking the the car i'm not getting any rpm in tunerstudio. I've tried reloading the firmware and installing the bootload jumper - but still nothing!
I understand MS gets it's tach signal from the CAS and i've checked the wiring between it and MS and everything seems fine.
I have updated my thermistor tables and i'm kinda at a loss as to what is wrong??
Could it just be a wrong setting in TS? Would trying a different tacho output in TS do any harm?
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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did you reload your msq?
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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yes i reloaded the msq i had saved before i updated the firmware
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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what's the composite logger look like when you crank? because sounds like your not getting the signal from the CAS, which doesn't make sense.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Log attached while cranking.
The tps wasn't recalibrated for this log but i had done it after and still the same
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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composite logger. on diagnostics tab.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Hi Brain is this what you were looking? I tried cranking for about 4 or 5 seconds and got this log
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the signals you are inputting from the CAS dont make sense, so you're not syncing.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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When i have MS connected to TS the 'Not syncing' box is red. What is not in sync? Sorry for the noob q's but i appreciate your help and have been scratching my head and reading up trying to figure this out for a few days
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when the MS interprets the CAS signals correctly.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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What could be wrong then? Something internal with the MS (a hardware problem) or a setting in TS?
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no it looks like the signals coming in are incorrect. no pattern to them like it should be outputting. check the connection?
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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I'm just after checking the connections again. I don't have a scope but when i put the multimeter onto the harness on pins 24 and 25 at the db37 i was getting 0v with the ignition ON and 5v when cranking. So it's getting some kind of a signal? Although this 0 -5v is pulsed?
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the composite logger is pretty much a scope.

should look like this:




where green is the cam, blue is the crank singals. red is the error (was expecting a signal, or a recorded a signal where it wasn't expecting)
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Cheers. Is there a possibility that i have a setting wrong in TS and that the CAS is sending a proper signal but my MS is not interpereting it properly because of a wrong setting?
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not on the log I saw.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Could the signal be corrupted because of noise from other cables? I had made a harness from the miata ecu plug to the db37 and the CAS wire is not shielded? I think i'll get another ignitor, put the normal plug leads back on, use the old firmware i had running and just start from where i was when the car was running right. I'll see if that gets me anywhere. I know it shouldn't affect the CAS - which is my problem now - but i have to try something.

Thanks for your help
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