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Converting MS3 Basic to run k24z3

Old Aug 11, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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You would have to measure the voltage on the open circuit and then short the output through your mA meter to calculate it.
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rabid
You would have to measure the voltage on the open circuit and then short the output through your mA meter to calculate it.
I’m a bit slow on this stuff (you’d never know I have 3 semesters of EE before changing degrees)

can you expand on this? I opened my board again and verified it isn’t laid out at all like a ms3 so I can’t follow that hw manual.

I drove the car again today and had the failure at almost exactly the same rpm.
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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I reread your post and understood it. Confirmed there is a 5v pull-up on the crank sensor via testing. I’m going to play with different settings now to see if I can resolve this.
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 11:49 AM
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For those playing along, I mean the output would could read 5 volts. Put your meter on amps and you might read 0.005 amps. That would be a 1000 ohm pull up resistor because 5 / 0.005 = 1000
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks for the info.

fwiw I did composite lots of both rising and falling edge triggers. Rising edge was worse and also suffered timing drift. I went back to falling edge. Issue is not resolved. I feel real stuck….
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Omg I hate myself. Noise filtering was the issue. I turned it on while trying to test VVT settings and the filtering was too significant at high rpm’s and masked real teeth!!

solved. Now to fix my throttle plate sticking slightly open.
Old Aug 21, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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fun update on mine... I have been having tons of issues because I had a problem with cam signal wire. It must have an internal break, I ended up splicing a temp wire directly to the ecu and bam I have a signal! now I'm going to work on the rest of it, but very glad to be past that hurdle.
Old Oct 30, 2023 | 06:31 PM
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How is everyone else doing on their setup? I think I’m going to move away from megasquirt this winter. I’m still struggling with loss of sync. I’ve added a better ground, built an external filtering circuit which pulls the sensor up to 12v and uses an opto-isolator and Schmitt trigger to pre-filter the crank signal.

While that circuit helped a lot, I’m still having one or two loss sync episodes during a 30 min drive. the circuit isn’t great, because it’s essentially just redoing the internal megasquirt circuit which is known to have issues on high tooth count. It isn’t fast enough.

I think being that this is a MS3Basic from rev I can’t switch to using the VR circuit design with adjustable POTs.

I’d probably be willing to live with a loss of sync every now again, except the car won’t resync without a power reset. I suspect this is because my trigger offset is 396 aka a full rev off and I bet the firmware can’t handle that. Just a guess.

so unless I can have a foolproof solution to this problem I’ll likely switch to haltech…

Old Oct 30, 2023 | 09:46 PM
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Took the car to autocross this weekend and had zero issues.
Old Jan 25, 2024 | 01:58 AM
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Took the car to autocross this weekend and had zero issues.
Awesome news! Sent you a PM, I would really appreciate your help. Thanks!
Old Apr 26, 2025 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
The crank is 12+1, not 60-2. You will connect the exhaust cam (which doesn't have VVT) as the main cam, and then connect the intake cam to PT4. In the VVT setup, CAM1 (main cam input) will be set to Output: Off (ie no control - it's the exhaust cam) and CAM2 will have PT4 as the input, and set the output to VVT. You will need to convert the VTEC solenoid to low side (activated by ground) as the stock configuration is high-side and the ECU doesn't have any high-side outputs.
Necro bump. Thanks for this, anything else needed?
Old Apr 26, 2025 | 12:36 PM
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Not really. The k24z3/z7 is 60 tooth tho so don’t follow the 12t comment

I ended up always having sync issues so I eventually upgraded to haltech and never looked back.

if you want my ms3 tune send me a pm. It was rough but worked.
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