cylinders 2 and 4 running rich :confused:
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So I'd been wondering why in the hell my car was cruising/idling/everything pig rich (like 11.5 and richer CONSTANTLY) and thought I'd change my plugs. This is what came out, cyl 1 on left, 4 on right:


So, judging by those, I don't think it's my tune...
Here's two logs, just driving normally to and from work:


So, judging by those, I don't think it's my tune...
Here's two logs, just driving normally to and from work:
Last edited by kotomile; Jun 4, 2008 at 01:57 PM.
I don't know dude, I'd clean/replace the plugs and look again in a few days.
maybe, but not unless/until the symptoms repeat.
identify a problem before looking for a solution.
identify a problem before looking for a solution.
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I should mention the car idles like a Subaru and bucks a lot during cruise, definitely NOT smooth anymore. I remember the cylinders are batch-fired and was wondering if that might have anything to do with it.
i think the batches are 1+2 & 3+4. a quick trip to madracki would tell for sure.
I'd assume you are getting spark on all 4 since its running super as nasty rich on 2 and 3 and the way its batched....
so either you have 2 dead injectors, or two leaky injectors, or im completely wrong.
so either you have 2 dead injectors, or two leaky injectors, or im completely wrong.
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Leaky injectors would be a good explanation, but the fault in it is that it might not be that likely that both 2 and 4 started leaking simultaneously.
I just got the taillight too man, thanks!
I just got the taillight too man, thanks!
Could you post your MSQ? I'd like to take a look and see if there are any settings for different fueling on the separate injector channels.
Curious where that goes. I'm wondering if something burned out in the MS, just leaving the injectors on. That, or a short somewhere.
Did it happen suddenly? Does it always do it, or is it on and off?
Did it happen suddenly? Does it always do it, or is it on and off?
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Here's the .msq \/
Abe: That's what I was thinking might possibly be the problem, but didn't want to jump to that conclusion lest it be something more simple.
It always does it, I can't remember when it started but it hasn't let up since I first noticed it happening. It's like clockwork; after startup, AFRs will be around 15:1, then climb to 17:1ish, then drop steadily to 11.5ish, sometimes 10:1 in cruise. Just measured my MPG - 16 MPG...
Abe: That's what I was thinking might possibly be the problem, but didn't want to jump to that conclusion lest it be something more simple.
It always does it, I can't remember when it started but it hasn't let up since I first noticed it happening. It's like clockwork; after startup, AFRs will be around 15:1, then climb to 17:1ish, then drop steadily to 11.5ish, sometimes 10:1 in cruise. Just measured my MPG - 16 MPG...
Oh, it doesn't happen for a while?
If you run it for a while, 20 min or something, shut it off then immediately start it again, how is it?
I wonder if it's electronics heating up....
If you run it for a while, 20 min or something, shut it off then immediately start it again, how is it?
I wonder if it's electronics heating up....
your ego settings and AFR table are screwy.
RPM Based ACCEL needs to be off.
ASE table should go to 0% at 160*
timing and fuel tables at idle look crazy low.
overboost is at -5.7psi, might screw things up.
RPM Based ACCEL needs to be off.
ASE table should go to 0% at 160*
timing and fuel tables at idle look crazy low.
overboost is at -5.7psi, might screw things up.









