DIY - Raspberry Pi Racedash
#22
Also if anyone is interested in inputting the fuel level signal into megasquirt you can use the following circuit. I tried just using a 5V pull-up resistor but the tank sender only goes from around 10-120 ohms so it doesn't give you a lot of resolution. This circuit just amplifies the small voltage difference into a much great ~0.5-4V signal.
Not the neatest but it works
Not the neatest but it works
#23
Turns out that the fuel sender resistance reading is a bit higher than I thought at the gauge cluster wire so the circuit I posted will need adjusting since it goes out of range and you end up with a fuel level reading that doesn't move till there's about 20L left in the tank. Will come back with the correct values once I do some testing.
#24
Those are great contributions Barton! For a few of the kits I have made I have been using a 90-0ohm fuel gauge. It seems to read pretty accurate.
I updated the Thingiverse page with parts for the NB as well. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2252864
I updated the Thingiverse page with parts for the NB as well. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2252864
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Turns out that the fuel sender resistance reading is a bit higher than I thought at the gauge cluster wire so the circuit I posted will need adjusting since it goes out of range and you end up with a fuel level reading that doesn't move till there's about 20L left in the tank. Will come back with the correct values once I do some testing.
#27
Sorry I haven't bothered changing the circuit yet. It functions fine to let me know when I need to fill up and an approximate fuel level but it needs a lot more smoothing of the signal since it moves a fair bit when going around corners etc. I think it really needs some software averaging to take care of that.
A mechanical gauge like what Teejay has been using is the easy solution.
A mechanical gauge like what Teejay has been using is the easy solution.
#28
Sorry I haven't bothered changing the circuit yet. It functions fine to let me know when I need to fill up and an approximate fuel level but it needs a lot more smoothing of the signal since it moves a fair bit when going around corners etc. I think it really needs some software averaging to take care of that.
A mechanical gauge like what Teejay has been using is the easy solution.
A mechanical gauge like what Teejay has been using is the easy solution.
ICM Fuel Sender
#29
I'm interested in doing this setup after I get the Megasquirt up and running (within the next 2 months). I do have a few questions. Car is a '91. Cars purpose is weekends/HPDE/nice weather cruiser.
Is this setup to use a GPS based speedometer, or would I have to get an NB VSS? I would like to also be able to have an odometer, but do not view it as a must.
Does this require any wiring into the factory harness other than the fuel gauge, or is everything straight from the ECU? I'd like to run LED's for blinker, high bean indicator, and parking brake light so I figured those were a given. I'm debating picking up an extra factory harness just in case.
How accurate is the 0-90 ohm fuel level gauge compared to stock? I haven't found the resistance values for the stock sending unit. I admittedly haven't looked very hard..
The car will be pretty well stripped of unnecessary circuits depending on how much of a pain in the *** that is as well. Car currently does not have ABS, PS, AC, or power windows. I will be removing the airbag system as well.
Any other tips from those that have this or a similar setup up and running?
Is this setup to use a GPS based speedometer, or would I have to get an NB VSS? I would like to also be able to have an odometer, but do not view it as a must.
Does this require any wiring into the factory harness other than the fuel gauge, or is everything straight from the ECU? I'd like to run LED's for blinker, high bean indicator, and parking brake light so I figured those were a given. I'm debating picking up an extra factory harness just in case.
How accurate is the 0-90 ohm fuel level gauge compared to stock? I haven't found the resistance values for the stock sending unit. I admittedly haven't looked very hard..
The car will be pretty well stripped of unnecessary circuits depending on how much of a pain in the *** that is as well. Car currently does not have ABS, PS, AC, or power windows. I will be removing the airbag system as well.
Any other tips from those that have this or a similar setup up and running?
#30
You could try this, it's got dampening to prevent gauge bounce, it's what I intend to use for my Arduino.
ICM Fuel Sender
ICM Fuel Sender
#31
I'm interested in doing this setup after I get the Megasquirt up and running (within the next 2 months). I do have a few questions. Car is a '91. Cars purpose is weekends/HPDE/nice weather cruiser.
Is this setup to use a GPS based speedometer, or would I have to get an NB VSS? I would like to also be able to have an odometer, but do not view it as a must.
Does this require any wiring into the factory harness other than the fuel gauge, or is everything straight from the ECU? I'd like to run LED's for blinker, high bean indicator, and parking brake light so I figured those were a given. I'm debating picking up an extra factory harness just in case.
How accurate is the 0-90 ohm fuel level gauge compared to stock? I haven't found the resistance values for the stock sending unit. I admittedly haven't looked very hard..
The car will be pretty well stripped of unnecessary circuits depending on how much of a pain in the *** that is as well. Car currently does not have ABS, PS, AC, or power windows. I will be removing the airbag system as well.
Any other tips from those that have this or a similar setup up and running?
Is this setup to use a GPS based speedometer, or would I have to get an NB VSS? I would like to also be able to have an odometer, but do not view it as a must.
Does this require any wiring into the factory harness other than the fuel gauge, or is everything straight from the ECU? I'd like to run LED's for blinker, high bean indicator, and parking brake light so I figured those were a given. I'm debating picking up an extra factory harness just in case.
How accurate is the 0-90 ohm fuel level gauge compared to stock? I haven't found the resistance values for the stock sending unit. I admittedly haven't looked very hard..
The car will be pretty well stripped of unnecessary circuits depending on how much of a pain in the *** that is as well. Car currently does not have ABS, PS, AC, or power windows. I will be removing the airbag system as well.
Any other tips from those that have this or a similar setup up and running?
I am only using the factory wires for the fuel sender with mine for the moment although I do plan on wiring up LED indicators for the indicators etc.
You just stated the resistance values of the stock sender.... The stock gauge isn't hugely accurate anyway.
#36
Just though I'd post some more info on the digital fuel level input. I realised (took me long enough) that the signal return for the fuel sender is grounded at the rear of the chassis with the brake lights, indicators and parkers which means when they're switched on it creates a voltage shift which is why the reading varies so much when they turn on. To get it to work properly you would need to move the signal return to the ECU signal ground.
#38
Question about the set up of a Pi Dash with an MS3 basic, hoping that this thread would be the right place to post it.
Im planning on using ShadowDash to display on the dash, if my PiDash is pulling data from my MS3, do i need to disconnect the Pi Dash from the MS3 in order to connect to TunerStudio to do actual tuning on my computer? Not sure if i can have both connected simultaneously (one through USB output, one through the serial data output). Or do i need to disconnect the Pi Dash in order to connect to TunerStudio on my computer?
Im planning on using ShadowDash to display on the dash, if my PiDash is pulling data from my MS3, do i need to disconnect the Pi Dash from the MS3 in order to connect to TunerStudio to do actual tuning on my computer? Not sure if i can have both connected simultaneously (one through USB output, one through the serial data output). Or do i need to disconnect the Pi Dash in order to connect to TunerStudio on my computer?
#40
Sorry about that, will be using a dashboard in Tunerstudio on it. You are correct that Shadow dash runs on Android OS.
That is what i assumed, but wanted to double check if anyone else that has already done this knew for sure. Most likely going to try and use some sort of USB switch to make it cleaner than having to unplug and plug the wires to the different devices when I want to switch.
That is what i assumed, but wanted to double check if anyone else that has already done this knew for sure. Most likely going to try and use some sort of USB switch to make it cleaner than having to unplug and plug the wires to the different devices when I want to switch.