Notices
MEGAsquirt A place to collectively sort out this megasquirt gizmo

EBC is useless!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:00 PM
  #21  
cardriverx's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,573
Total Cats: 12
From: Hermosa Beach, CA
Default

Originally Posted by patsmx5
:bowr ofl:
oh man I feel like a tard, dont worry i ninja edited it.

here is the link again
EBC problems
Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:15 PM
  #22  
patsmx5's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,406
Total Cats: 559
From: Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by cardriverx
oh man I feel like a tard, dont worry i ninja edited it.

here is the link again
EBC problems
And don't worry I quoted you before you could ninja edit.
Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:57 PM
  #23  
posidon42's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 616
Total Cats: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Default

I have the same problem with my Hydra. Just can't get it to be stable in the morning and the evening. Overshoot in the morning and boring drive home in the evening... sigh. So I talked to FM about it and they told me to get a manual boost controller. Apparently they no longer include the solenoid with their FM II kit. The only include the MBC. Guess they got tired of the complaints too.

Got a load of new parts to install but my new MBC is scheduled to come in on Friday. Day in the shop working on the car on Saturday! Oh yeah, then retuning EVERYTHING :(
Old Nov 15, 2008 | 05:55 PM
  #24  
patsmx5's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,406
Total Cats: 559
From: Houston, TX
Default

Just a little bumpage for those that wished they had closed loop EBC with their megasquirt.....

MS2E has it. I had no idea till I just looked. It has closed loop EBC though. You just enter the P, I, and D settings and then a "boost control target table" shows up instead of "boost control duty table". And if I go into autotune, you can autotune the table. Crazy.
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:25 AM
  #25  
Zaphod's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,574
Total Cats: 106
From: Schwarzenberg, Germany
Default

Originally Posted by patsmx5
Just a little bumpage for those that wished they had closed loop EBC with their megasquirt.....

MS2E has it. I had no idea till I just looked. It has closed loop EBC though. You just enter the P, I, and D settings and then a "boost control target table" shows up instead of "boost control duty table". And if I go into autotune, you can autotune the table. Crazy.
AFAIK this doesn't really work - or am I wrong? Abe? I thought the code for this was wrong in some way?!

Greets
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 09:57 AM
  #26  
posidon42's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 616
Total Cats: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Default

The Hydra has a boost control target table as well. Unfortunately, the only thing it is useful for is setting your overboost limit. 3 psi above any value on the table and it cuts fuel. I got my MBC in the mail on Friday. Hopefully I can get the car back together today and start retuning everything. By the way, the FM one is sourced from 3barracing.com. Price is about the same, but shipping from CO was a byatch! 1 lb UPS package = $13...
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 02:24 PM
  #27  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

has anyone made tps-based boost control work yet? I really want to make it happen in my car.
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 04:39 PM
  #28  
ThePass's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,310
Total Cats: 1,236
From: San Diego
Default

I'm just going to chime in and point out that while there is a handful of people contributing to this thread and related ones and expressing their desire for a stable control of the EBC with MS, there are a LOT of people, like myself who while not contributing posts to this, are waiting and following along and hoping for something to emerge that works better than what we've got with MS's EBC currently. Until then, I for one will be using a reliable and cheap MBC from ebay. If the MSPNP guys are listening or anyone else who knows a load more about this than I who can actually help develop a better option, know that there is a large demand for this.
-Ryan
__________________
Ryan Passey
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 05:38 PM
  #29  
cjernigan's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,091
Total Cats: 7
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

Still say you're a bunch of sandy vaginas pissing and moaning over a $200 ecu that just happens to include EBC. Guess I'm easy to please when I pay pennies for something. I figure if I have more boost in the morning then I get to work faster and it works out in the end.
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 09:04 PM
  #30  
johndoe's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,970
Total Cats: 1
From: NYC
Default

What are the stand alone boost controller options? Any that have accurate closed loop boost control?
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:48 PM
  #31  
posidon42's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 616
Total Cats: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Default

not that I know of. None of them use a temperature correction table to adjust the solenoid values. It would be awesome, but honestly, it would probably take FOREVER to tune it correctly. That is why I decided to (probably) sacrifice a little spool time and just get the MBC. That way I can start tuning for A/F ratio and get some mileage back.
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 03:41 AM
  #32  
elesjuan's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,360
Total Cats: 43
From: Overland Park, Kansas
Default

Reading that thread is pretty typical for that site, I'm actually really disappointed in the level of support offered to many areas of Megasquirt. **** I posted a question on one of their boards and it took 2 weeks before anyone even replied, and they basically stated my problem was something I mentioned already fixed so they didn't even bother to fully read my post.

I've got a 7psi wastegate spring, so I'll just put a switch to disable the EBC and run on 7psi.
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:12 AM
  #33  
akaryrye's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,557
Total Cats: 5
From: Central California
Default

ok i posted my support.
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:11 PM
  #34  
chucker's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 245
Total Cats: 1
From: santa cruz
Default

.
Originally Posted by elesjuan
... I'm actually really disappointed in the level of support offered to many areas of Megasquirt. **** I posted a question on one of their boards and it took 2 weeks before anyone even replied, and they basically stated my problem was something I mentioned already fixed so they didn't even bother to fully read my post.
Originally Posted by cjernigan
Still say you're a bunch of sandy vaginas pissing and moaning over a $200 ecu that just happens to include EBC. Guess I'm easy to please when I pay pennies for something.
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:27 PM
  #35  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

DIYEFI.org
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:43 PM
  #36  
skidude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,023
Total Cats: 19
From: Outside Portland Maine
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
Looks like MS might have some competition soon!
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:45 PM
  #37  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

Originally Posted by skidude108
Looks like MS might have some competition soon!

the same frustration elesjuan is having with B&Gs support and such is what prompted this.


Betcha his software won't read coolant temps from -40*F to 215*F.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
satisfied
MEGAsquirt
144
Nov 5, 2018 04:05 PM
itsMikey
MSPNP
3
Sep 28, 2015 06:40 AM
cheeseclock
Meet and Greet
15
Sep 12, 2015 08:53 AM
Baxgordum
Miata parts for sale/trade
19
Sep 4, 2015 11:42 PM
krayzrac3r
MEGAsquirt
6
Nov 28, 2007 08:25 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 PM.