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Old 07-05-2011, 06:14 PM   #21
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$65 for something you WILL have to tweak for your own car

Just Trolling this site will get you dozens of freebies that you WILL need to tweak

If it was $65 for the maps from the OEM ECU's then maybe.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:20 PM   #22
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Just about everyone here is a hobbyist, most people will never tweak until they ride in my car, regarded by The Lord as the best tuned car on Earth. I meat people with shitty tunes all the time, we're talking little stuff that makes them control throttle inputs, bad MPG, and how many Evo's shoot fire?
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:27 PM   #23
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Just about everyone here is a hobbyist, most people will never tweak until they ride in my car, regarded by The Lord as the best tuned car on Earth. I meat people with shitty tunes all the time, we're talking little stuff that makes them control throttle inputs, bad MPG, and how many Evo's shoot fire?
I'll have to trust you on bragging rights, it's a f'ing long way for me to go for a joyride
I'm playing with AFR Table 1 at the moment (), tweaking a base map to more my style of driving. i.e cruising between 2000 and 4500 rpm. Looking at Brains and others for inspiration.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:30 PM   #24
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guise if i run 40 degrees in all cells is dat safe?
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:41 PM   #26
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I'll have to trust you on bragging rights, it's a f'ing long way for me to go for a joyride
I'm playing with AFR Table 1 at the moment (), tweaking a base map to more my style of driving. i.e cruising between 2000 and 4500 rpm. Looking at Brains and others for inspiration.
The real fine tuning is in the IAT/CLT curves and TPDdot and MAPdot. That's where the hard work really pays off, TunerStudio makes it easier. Anyone can tune a car in 2-hours for spark and fuel from garbage tables, it's the last few tweaks in drivability that are the hard work.

I was joking about my car being the best-tuned car on Earth. Well, it might be, actually. When it hits target AFR when stomping the loud pedal like a monkey, at any RPM, get 28mpg with the 300lb tire trailer, and you can hang the tach at 6500rpm in 6th at the local roval in the 100*f heat and see 11.5:1 on the gauge, you know you're doing something right. I'm proud of that tune, I worked really hard on it.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:50 PM   #27
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Sounds like you got it nicely balanced, well done
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OP you need to educate yourself. I paid way too much money for tuning before I learned how to do it myself.

It is not rocket science. At worst it is 3rd grade arithmetic.

FM is great and has provided me with endless tech support on my hydra. Regardless of their $65 offer you will still probably need to work on your fuel maps at a minimum.

If you want set it and forget it sell your miata and just buy a cobb accessport and a subaru and be cool like all the bros lol

Tuning is a required part of the miata turbo game. Learn to do it.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:50 PM   #29
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Load this spark table up:

This is my conservative, "Hang the tach at 6500rpm in 6th at 100*f at TWS" spark table. You should run it.
Call it morbid curiosity, but I have to know. Is this your actual spark table and if so how the **** are you getting away with it?!
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:29 PM   #30
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Low comp pistons and unrestrictive turbine housing.

Also, it's probably the lovely texas nectar they call fuel there.
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Call it morbid curiosity, but I have to know. Is this your actual spark table and if so how the **** are you getting away with it?!
I thought it was a joke...
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Low comp pistons and unrestrictive turbine housing.

Also, it's probably the lovely texas nectar they call fuel there.
I run that spark table on 91-octane. You're right on the low comp, big turbine housing, 3" exhaust, and 11.5:1 AFR (could go leaner but it makes less torque).
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:30 AM   #33
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I suspect the problem the OP had was not his spark table. You don't bust a piston instantly due to a few * too much advance. I suspect way more advance than that - that the actual advance was way more advanced than the MS setting, like he didn't do the 10* timing light check.

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Old 08-03-2011, 04:00 AM   #34
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You did not fail because you did not bend over for a hydra. You failed because you did not have the car properly tuned.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:29 PM   #35
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I thought I did enough reaming of myself before everyone else chimed in. If I understand right, trolling is like me trying to sell stuff for FM? No, not the case really. It's a good product all the way around.

The maps from FM are not random. This map is for the FMII kit with the 550s on the same 99 motor that I have in my car. BTW spark is universal between tuning programs and ECUs. Obviously it is setup dependent. If you buy an FM kit like I did, it would be smart to use their spark tables as a basis. It's the same tables they send out on their ECUs - so yeah I think I trust it. It's not just a random email tune.

So, about the reaming. Funny that the spark table came highly recommended from multiple members on this forum. It was posted later in one of the stickies on this forum! So, FTW, yes I made mistakes and identified them. The idea is to prevent more mistakes and not provide misinformation. Hustler's table should be pulled. It is likely that someone would otherwise take his post literally and use that table. It's really not funny.
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No, it's not funny, somebody should do something about that Hustler guy, and quick. Oh wait, this thread is 2 months old.
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OK where do I find the popular map. I searched timing map and timing tables and cants seem to find it. I will keep searching but if someone has the generally acceptable map it would be a good starting point for me. My car seems to need a lot more timing. It did even before ms.

Oh and is detonation something you can hear pretty easy.
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OK where do I find the popular map. I searched timing map and timing tables and cants seem to find it. I will keep searching but if someone has the generally acceptable map it would be a good starting point for me. My car seems to need a lot more timing. It did even before ms.

Oh and is detonation something you can hear pretty easy.
No.
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OK where do I find the popular map. I searched timing map and timing tables and cants seem to find it. I will keep searching but if someone has the generally acceptable map it would be a good starting point for me. My car seems to need a lot more timing. It did even before ms.

Oh and is detonation something you can hear pretty easy.
Geeez, man!

Go here:

https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquirt-18/dyno-tuning-take-look-fm-we-want-your-timingz-18648/

and here:

https://www.miataturbo.net/ecus-tuning-54/another-electronic-det-can-example-61616/

Don't even think about tuning spark without det cans.
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OK where do I find the popular map. I searched timing map and timing tables and cants seem to find it. I will keep searching but if someone has the generally acceptable map it would be a good starting point for me. My car seems to need a lot more timing. It did even before ms.

Oh and is detonation something you can hear pretty easy.
If you can hear the detonation with your naked ears then youre detonating really badly.

Waiting for you to blow more motor.
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