How close to the cat. can the WB go?
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I want/need to install a wideband bung in my supercharged car.
I searched around & found lots of posts saying away from the engine, in front of the cat.
I have the FM Butterfly brace & the blower in place & all the other excuses why I really don't want to remove the downpipe.
I'm wondering if its safe? to install the bung in the neck of the cat. There is about 3" there between the coupling & the body of the cat.
If that location is ok, I can slide the cat out the back to get the job done.
I searched around & found lots of posts saying away from the engine, in front of the cat.
I have the FM Butterfly brace & the blower in place & all the other excuses why I really don't want to remove the downpipe.
I'm wondering if its safe? to install the bung in the neck of the cat. There is about 3" there between the coupling & the body of the cat.
If that location is ok, I can slide the cat out the back to get the job done.
+1, shouldn't be a problem since you are doing as advised and placing it before the cat. Only problem I can see is that the Cat does not last as long at the midpipe. So if the CAT decides to crap out you are going to have to weld in a new bung all over. This assumes OEM replacement.
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My one concern was that the cat heats up pretty good.
Due to the exaust flow, no problem when running, but what if I do 20 hard laps then stop. Will the heat kill the sensor or am I over thinking this?
Due to the exaust flow, no problem when running, but what if I do 20 hard laps then stop. Will the heat kill the sensor or am I over thinking this?
You want it before the cat so you see the real mixture, not after the cat have burnt up more gas.
You want it away from the turbo so the high EGTs don't lessen the longevity of the sensor.
You want it away from the turbo so the high EGTs don't lessen the longevity of the sensor.
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What is the relationship between the distance away from the turbo and the o2 readings? Would the AF ratios still be accurate the further it is from the turbo? I am planning on relocating my wideband from the stock narrowband location to the exhaust, but that seems REALLY far away from the engine. But of course, if the exhaust gas velocity is fast enough than there's no lag to worry about.
AFRs will still read the same as long as it's still before the cat. I don't think there would be an issue with delay but somewhere in the software is an adjustment for that too.
But in all seriousness, typically you want it a bit back from the turbo to maximize the life of the O2 sensor.
Use a heatsink pas er the manual and put it in the stock location. Irll be fine.
Mines been there for 5 years and many trackdays.
Similarly my mate has a Greddy same LC1 with a heatsink and in the stock location, again no issues.
Install it properly, use a heatsink use the stock location and stop worrying about it.
Mines been there for 5 years and many trackdays.
Similarly my mate has a Greddy same LC1 with a heatsink and in the stock location, again no issues.
Install it properly, use a heatsink use the stock location and stop worrying about it.
I'm using an MP62 on my NB. My LC-1 is in the stock location with the narrow-band sensor removed. I'm also running without the heat-sink and it's been fine since October last year.
My sensor is also second-hand so it's had lots of miles on it.
My sensor is also second-hand so it's had lots of miles on it.
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