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Old 07-14-2008, 11:01 PM   #21
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He wouldn't have been hurt if it wasn't for you, so don't try to blame me.
You two should have make up sex and stfu.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:14 AM   #22
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Can never stop talkin **** can you? I'm not going to mention any names, but I use 460 numbers from one of the top moderators here, so that is an insult to him as well. And my car starts great in any temperature.

Tuning pulsewidths is not something super hard, and not being able to do it yourself is nothing but embarassing.
Kinda contradictory so you should be finishing your post with this
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Not contradictory at all. I use his because I was too lazy to tune mine. Not knowing how (Evan), and using someone elses pulsewidths are completely different.
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I'm still waiting for the gay makeup sex, as I do believe it was promised in a previous post.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:22 AM   #25
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Bravo Paul!

I've been waiting for someone to Megasquizzle a MSM. Is his car the one posted earlier with that HOOOOUGE equal runner manifold?
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:27 AM   #26
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nah, he has the stock manifold and turbo. the only thing not stock is the FM intake kit and TurboTim full 3" exhaust.
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Forgot to mention. Currently the car is running LoRes. Last time I tried HiRes on a parallel install I ran into some problems so I am leaving that for another day.

Oh, and does anyone else know of another squirted MSM? Nobody over on the mazdaspeed forums thinks it'd been done before. No idea why. It's no different from any other NB really and there is no reason it shouldn't work. Lots of people think it won't since they have not had great success with EMU.
It wasn't that I thought it wouldn't work. For me, it was that I wouldn't assume it would work. Guys there on the other sight were skeptical on the EMU working on the MSM. I saw no reason why it shouldn't because so many people run them with success on none MSM miata. I mean, in theory, the EMU should work. I couldn't make it work very well, and so far I haven't been able to find anyone else that could make it work well either on the MSM. I'm glad the MS is working out. I want engine managment but I need to be able to pass OBD. Swapping out the hydra and injectors every year doesn't work for me, and I'm not confident with the abilities of the Xede.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:29 AM   #28
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I am very interested in your install. I have an MSM with a GT2860 running stock EM on the 7 psi gate. I would really like to run a MS. Can you give us a parts list of whats needed and share the tune?
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:43 AM   #29
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I am very interested in your install. I have an MSM with a GT2860 running stock EM on the 7 psi gate. I would really like to run a MS. Can you give us a parts list of whats needed and share the tune?

I assume Paul didn't have to deviate from me and Chad's writeup very much....


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Can you give us a parts list of whats needed and share the tune?
Paul has all the tuning files. Here is the parts list:

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90-97 CAS.
vacuum line
serial cable
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90-97 CAS.
vacuum line
serial cable

like i said
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90-97 CAS.
vacuum line
serial cable
Someone still owes me for that vacuum line I had to run out and get.....
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and ice....lol
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UPDATE: Spark is now switched over to MS and after a few hiccups(plug gap) the car is running flawlessy and better than ever at 14-15psi. I think the owner is happy.
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I think the owner is happy.
Yup!

I knew the Megasquirt would give my car more power and a smoother power curve. What I grossly underestimated is how big of a difference there would be in going into and out of boost. Before there was a jolt going in and also a jolt when I let off the gas. Now it's completely seamless. Basically it feels like the car doesn't have a turbo anymore, because there's no sign of where the forced induction kicks in. Instead it simply feels like a bigger n/a engine. Which is good because what I wanted all along was a quick touring car, not boy-racer-mobile.

BTW, now that I'm running the EBC (vs. just wastegate pressure before), the 3-inch Absurdflow really shows its colors! Everything's nicely spooled by 3K (not bad for the stock IHI non-BB turbo) with instant throttle response.

Did get a few CEL codes today but nothing tuning can't fix.

Near-term future: hi-res, and I'll install an EBC cut-off switch so I can ran an ad-hoc (is that considered ghetto?) dual-stage setup for bad traction conditions.
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Are you using the standard solenoid or a GM one? I've heard the standard one has a tough time holding steady anything over 12 pounds (it was controlled by a Haltech, though).
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IIRC he is using a GM one, the stock one is terrible
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Correct, GM solenoid
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Today we turned down the EBC. When we set it for 14 psi the other night, we didn't consider that the small stock intercooler was already heatsoaked. So what was 14 in that condition became 16 in normal conditions. Now the car makes a nice 13.5-14.0 in normal conditions.

We also upgraded to hi-res today. Worked fine and the idle now seems smoother (but I'll take a few days and keep an eye on it).
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