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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:08 AM
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So the car idles fine at with an AFR value anywhere from 14.1-14.9. But TunerStudio only reads the value at 10-11. I assume this is why I cannot run autotune successfully within TS. I have a few data logs of it while its idling good at 14.7 (according the the innovate gauge) but as soon as I start to drive with autotune it kinda turns to ****. Is it correct to assume that the innovate gauge is accurate, and the reading tunerstudio is getting is off?
I have the innovate grounded at the same spot as the stock ecu, but not the same point of origin, right next to the throttle body with its own wire.
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:46 AM
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have you chosen the correct settings for the wideband in tunerstudio?
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:58 AM
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i have it set for innovate lc1 default
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:59 AM
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I have the Innovate MTX-L and the enhanced DIYPNP. Try using custom linear wideband and use the values:

0.2v - 7.3 afr
5.0v - 20 to 22 afr

I was able to get them to match perfectly. Make sure to open-air calibrate the wideband sensor first.
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 02:33 AM
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Which wire of the LC-1 did you connect to the yellow wire of the MS2 Josh?
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 02:37 AM
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the yellow wire from the lc1 to the yellow wire from the ms2
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wowmiata
the yellow wire from the lc1 to the yellow wire from the ms2
By default the yellow wire of the LC-1 is set-up as a simulated narrowband output i.e. only 0-1v

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...C-1_Manual.pdf - Page 4 step 6, I'm guessing you didn't read the install instructions....

You can reconfigure it in LM-Programmer as a 0-5v output very quickly though.
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I have tried everything and cant think of anything else I can try. Its still doing the same thing with tunerstudio not getting an accurate reading.

Afr Wont Display On Tuner Studio? - Forced Induction & N/A Power Mods - MX5Nutz Forum

ive tried everything in that thread too, but with no change.
changing the settings to lambda didnt do anything, nor did changing them to afr. and changing it to a 0-5v output didnt do anything either.

any more advice?
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How have you set the two outputs in LM programmer?
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GUYS!!! I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR WHAT YOU SUGGESTED!!!! IVE POSTED ELSEWHERE NOW!a
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Quite, the answer is in here, but OP seems to not want to actually try that for some reason.
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yes i have set the outputs in lm programmer, and it didn't change anything. it would change the value tunerstudio got, but it would be stuck at whatever value it would change to.
and it would still not match the value the innovate gauge was reading.
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Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
How have you set the two outputs in LM programmer?
Again
Old Feb 25, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
Again
this:

i have set the outputs in lm programmer, and it didn't change anything.
or put another way:

I have confirmed I'm outputting 0-1v to my 0-5v input.
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