Making sure I got everything to MS
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I finally decided to get a MS, and just want to make sure I'm getting all the extra parts I need for my setup. It's a '90 1.6L with Greddy turbo. I plan on completely replacing the PCM. I have A/C (or at least will if I can ever find the wiring harness for the new compressor) and plan to do EBC. Stock injectors and no variable TPS for now. I also have a PLX WBo2.
Here is what I THINK I need:
5x 1.0KQBK-ND (1k ohm .25W resistor) CAS
5x 620QBK-ND (620 ohm .25W resistor) Replace R19
1x ZTX688B-ND (NPN transistor) Replace Q4
1x 237F-ND (DB-37 female connector)
EBC:
1x IRLZ44ZPBF-ND (mosfet)
5x 100QBK-ND (100 ohm resistor)
5x 10KQBK-ND (10k ohm resistor)
I have wire/solder/heat shrink, is there anything I'm missing for my setup? Does the PLX need a resistor inline like some of the LC-1s?
Here is what I THINK I need:
5x 1.0KQBK-ND (1k ohm .25W resistor) CAS
5x 620QBK-ND (620 ohm .25W resistor) Replace R19
1x ZTX688B-ND (NPN transistor) Replace Q4
1x 237F-ND (DB-37 female connector)
EBC:
1x IRLZ44ZPBF-ND (mosfet)
5x 100QBK-ND (100 ohm resistor)
5x 10KQBK-ND (10k ohm resistor)
I have wire/solder/heat shrink, is there anything I'm missing for my setup? Does the PLX need a resistor inline like some of the LC-1s?
Hi
You say you dont want a TPS but if you change your mind I recommend the TPS from older BMW 7-series autos, I have one labelled Bosch 0 280 120 406 and it fits perfectly on 1.6 throttle house.
Good luck
Håkan
You say you dont want a TPS but if you change your mind I recommend the TPS from older BMW 7-series autos, I have one labelled Bosch 0 280 120 406 and it fits perfectly on 1.6 throttle house.
Good luck
Håkan
Buy your parts from DIYautotune. Tell them what you want to do. They sell mod-kits with the appropriate components to do the mods you want. EBC, Spark and whatever else you might want including a 4bar MAP sensor. The rest of the things you might need you can get locally at a radioshack.
FWIW, i buy my heatshrink tubing from Lowes, they sell 5 packs of 1/8" tubing for less than $2. I also buy my bullet connectors there because they sell a 20 pack for less than $2 too. Radioshit rips you off for things like that. You can buy sockets and diodes there though, the usually have what i need.
FWIW, i buy my heatshrink tubing from Lowes, they sell 5 packs of 1/8" tubing for less than $2. I also buy my bullet connectors there because they sell a 20 pack for less than $2 too. Radioshit rips you off for things like that. You can buy sockets and diodes there though, the usually have what i need.
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Buy your parts from DIYautotune. Tell them what you want to do. They sell mod-kits with the appropriate components to do the mods you want. EBC, Spark and whatever else you might want including a 4bar MAP sensor. The rest of the things you might need you can get locally at a radioshack.
FWIW, i buy my heatshrink tubing from Lowes, they sell 5 packs of 1/8" tubing for less than $2. I also buy my bullet connectors there because they sell a 20 pack for less than $2 too. Radioshit rips you off for things like that. You can buy sockets and diodes there though, the usually have what i need.
FWIW, i buy my heatshrink tubing from Lowes, they sell 5 packs of 1/8" tubing for less than $2. I also buy my bullet connectors there because they sell a 20 pack for less than $2 too. Radioshit rips you off for things like that. You can buy sockets and diodes there though, the usually have what i need.
I haven't seen any of the tubing tear, works for me. Acutally i've never seen any tear.
Their MS kits come with a DB-37 connector so I don't see how it can be too expensive. The tip120 transistor requires you to solder 3 wires to an existing location on the board and you bolt the TIP to a spot on the heatsink that you leave open from the VR circuit or MSII.
You can see the TIP install here.
Their MS kits come with a DB-37 connector so I don't see how it can be too expensive. The tip120 transistor requires you to solder 3 wires to an existing location on the board and you bolt the TIP to a spot on the heatsink that you leave open from the VR circuit or MSII.
You can see the TIP install here.
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Where can I get the boomslang connector for the harness? I can't seem to find just the connector anywhere. I want to make it plug n play. I went to boomslang and could only find a $100 cable, which is ridiculously overpriced.
Do a search or contact Braineack, he builds PNP MS harnesses for the 1.6.
The connector itself is $20 plus shipping from Boomslang. Otherwise there is a website like webconnectors.com or something you can get them from cheaper. Try a search on the forum for pnp harness it should show up after a few tries.
The connector itself is $20 plus shipping from Boomslang. Otherwise there is a website like webconnectors.com or something you can get them from cheaper. Try a search on the forum for pnp harness it should show up after a few tries.
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I bought the kit from diyautotune, so there's a female DB-37 in the box? If that's the case, then I can scratch that off the list. I just thought they gave you a DB-37 male that attaches to the board.
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Do a search or contact Braineack, he builds PNP MS harnesses for the 1.6.
The connector itself is $20 plus shipping from Boomslang. Otherwise there is a website like webconnectors.com or something you can get them from cheaper. Try a search on the forum for pnp harness it should show up after a few tries.
The connector itself is $20 plus shipping from Boomslang. Otherwise there is a website like webconnectors.com or something you can get them from cheaper. Try a search on the forum for pnp harness it should show up after a few tries.
Their DB-37 connector is too expensive and they use the TIPS120 transistor. The one I'm getting is supposed to be a cleaner install. I'd rather just get the stuff I need from digikey. I already can get heatshrink from work, so that's not a big deal. Not a bad price for it at Lowes though. I'll have to keep that in mind if I run out. Is it good quality stuff that doesn't tear easily if it tightens too much?
The ZTX688B is a very clean install-- it drops right in where Q4 used to be. And it won't even burn out as long as you don't use it!
Really though, it's a decent solution, but it's not heat-sinked, and it gets VERY hot and it will burn out if you drive the idle valve hard. The TIP120 is a much better solution even though it's a bit more hassle to install.
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Yes they give you a DB-37 connector to make your harness with it's part of the MS kit. I also recommend getting a GM IAT open element sensor, IAC mod kit, pullup resistor kit, EBC kit, and the 18" wire bundle because they are labeled nicely and it comes with a shielded ignition wire.
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Yes they give you a DB-37 connector to make your harness with it's part of the MS kit. I also recommend getting a GM IAT open element sensor, IAC mod kit, pullup resistor kit, EBC kit, and the 18" wire bundle because they are labeled nicely and it comes with a shielded ignition wire.
The bundle i spoke of what $12, for 2' of color/label coded wire. It allows you to assemble the DB-37 without flags taped on. It's a convenience thing, not needed though of course.
When assembling your DB-37 don't skip on ground wires, use atleast 4, each to it's own seperate pins. 6 would be better.
When assembling your DB-37 don't skip on ground wires, use atleast 4, each to it's own seperate pins. 6 would be better.
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The bundle i spoke of what $12, for 2' of color/label coded wire. It allows you to assemble the DB-37 without flags taped on. It's a convenience thing, not needed though of course.
When assembling your DB-37 don't skip on ground wires, use atleast 4, each to it's own seperate pins. 6 would be better.
When assembling your DB-37 don't skip on ground wires, use atleast 4, each to it's own seperate pins. 6 would be better.
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OK, I have everything wired up for the most part and I have a few questions/concerns before I hook it up for the first time.
What ignition should I be using the shielded wire for? CKP or CMP? Or something entirely different?
Since I'm replacing my Miata PCM, what do I do with the fuel pump wire to make it as close to stock as possible and what's the best solution for the fan (and what extra crap do I need for it)? Is there anything else I'm going to need to do to completely remove the PCM? I have no A/C atm, so when I get that working is when I plan on getting the TPS.
I have the EBC mod installed, but don't have the solenoid yet. I want to get it working without boost first and then fix it for boost if nothing blows up. I also got the IAT sensor, but where's the best place to put it? Do I have to drill a hole in my intake for it?
Also, I need to unplug the coil pack before starting it for the first time, correct? Only after I set the ignition settings it's safe.
Any other worries I'm missing? I think I've covered everything, but I want to be completely sure.
What ignition should I be using the shielded wire for? CKP or CMP? Or something entirely different?
Since I'm replacing my Miata PCM, what do I do with the fuel pump wire to make it as close to stock as possible and what's the best solution for the fan (and what extra crap do I need for it)? Is there anything else I'm going to need to do to completely remove the PCM? I have no A/C atm, so when I get that working is when I plan on getting the TPS.
I have the EBC mod installed, but don't have the solenoid yet. I want to get it working without boost first and then fix it for boost if nothing blows up. I also got the IAT sensor, but where's the best place to put it? Do I have to drill a hole in my intake for it?
Also, I need to unplug the coil pack before starting it for the first time, correct? Only after I set the ignition settings it's safe.
Any other worries I'm missing? I think I've covered everything, but I want to be completely sure.
yeah, drill/tap the pipes for the Ait or weld in a bung...best is on the coldside in an area that doesnt heat soak.
only to to unplug ignitor and coils if you're flashing firmware.
only to to unplug ignitor and coils if you're flashing firmware.







