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Old 12-19-2007, 01:02 PM   #1
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Ok guys, we had opened the Megatune file and connected the ms. At that time is was showing all the parameters and responding to commands. We were finding typical issues such as idling problems and were just trying to fix those. We proceeded then to open the easytherm file and that is were we screwed up. In the following step as per Braineacks instructions:

"Once you have changed the settings, click on the "Write .inc and .s19 Files" button on the bottom of the EasyTherm screen
The file that you want to write to is the 'msns-extra.s19' file in the C:\EFI\ folder in the MSnSE file that you unzipped to earlier." we burned this file to the wrong file and now the ms will not work.

What are my options? I am trying to find his reflash instructions without success so far.

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Old 12-19-2007, 01:06 PM   #2
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download a fresh copy of 029v. then mod the new .s19 file again and make a new msns-extra_mod.s19 file with easytherm. and upload that....
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I'm sending you an email with the MSII downloader and the correct firmware file for your MS Rafa. One sec.
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Thanks guys. Chad, we are going to call you.
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Sorry i missed the call i have my phone now.
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Sorry i missed the call i have my phone now.

I am the one who is sorry (it is about 7am for you now)

Thanks for the help. We got the files you sent.
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Sorry i missed the call i have my phone now.

Ok Chad, we jumped the boat loader pins with a small wire but when we try to download the new s.19 file to the ms it shows a message: "exception caught: 4".

Any ideas?

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You need to insert the boot loader while the MS is turned off. Then power cycle the MS on and proceed with burning the firmware. Did you change the baud rate on the MSII downloader to 9600?
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You need to insert the boot loader while the MS is turned off. Then power cycle the MS on and proceed with burning the firmware. Did you change the baud rate on the MSII downloader to 9600?
Hey Chad, left my tuner's shop. I got to go back later to pick up my laptop and the MS. I plan to bring it back home with me and asking my son for assistance. We did try to connect the MSII downloader file to 9600 and the connection failed. We got the a message with a "4" code number. Sorry, I can't recall precisely the message. I'll let you know in a few hours when I pick it up.

FWIW, we originally installed the Megatune program and it was connected to the MS. We were facing issues about the car not wanting to idle and I suggested we opened the Easytherm program. Somehow he burnt a file (msm019? or something like that) to the wrong program and the MS stopped connecting to the laptop. Things can't be done in a hurry. Oh, well, c'et la vie!

Thanks,

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p.s. I just reread your post and I'll try that when I get it home. I also asked my tuner to put the car's original injectors in and I'll try to tune it myself when I get the car back tomorrow.
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I might be out of my league here, but why 9600?? The MS-II uses 115k, so you shouldn't be able to talk that way.

Also, which boot-loader are you using? The MS-II has one on the daughtercard, do NOT use the one on the main board, they are not compatible.
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we use the MSII downloader for MSI too. but we gotta use 9600...
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For MSI you have to use the boot jumpers on the main board Abe. There is no daughter board on MSI.

That sounds like a plan though Rafa, i just got back from the beach so if you want you can give me a call or we can chat live using gmail or AIM. Ask your son about either one.
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we use the MSII downloader for MSI too. but we gotta use 9600...
Too... Strange....
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Ok guys, I've brought the ms back home with me. We downloaded the file Chad sent me but there's still no connection between the car and the ms.

We opened the ms case and I would like to know what to look for. My son Manny (software engineer) is trying to assist.

I think there is another issue here. The way I figure it this all started when we flashed the s19 file to the wrong place and after that lost all connection between the ms and the car. What should I look for in this case? Before that we had fired up the car and the only issue we were facing was that the car would die and not idle but we had communication between the ms and the car.

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So we followed instructions and know that the MS is connecting but we can only get it to connect to the car through the "Original BG Configuration" file and we figure that the 029s file is corrupted.

Can I get some suggestions about what we are doing wrong?

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It sounds like there was an issue with reflashing the board and the reflash somehow didn't take hold. Try reloading it with 029V - that's a bit more stable than 029S but will use the same files.
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It sounds like there was an issue with reflashing the board and the reflash somehow didn't take hold. Try reloading it with 029V - that's a bit more stable than 029S but will use the same files.
Matt, thanks for your input. We are using the 029V. We had the ms with connection when we fired the car. My tuner burned the 029V file to the wrong location. Since then, even with Chad's assistance and new downloader we haven't been able to connect the ms with the either 029V or the one that appears on the screen below it but we get communication with the original configuration file.

What would happen if we tune the car using the "Original Configuration" file?

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No idea where you got 029s, that's not what i sent you. Here is a copy of the new 029y4, which Matt said was the most recent stable version.
I modified it using easytherm for your coolant sensor.

I also emailed this to you and Manny.
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No idea where you got 029s, that's not what i sent you. Here is a copy of the new 029y4, which Matt said was the most recent stable version.
I modified it using easytherm for your coolant sensor.

I also emailed this to you and Manny.
Got it Chad; thanks. As I pmed you before, when I'm through I'll post a formal apology. This issue has nothing to do with the MS you made at all. We just messed up and burned the original file to the wrong location. I still don't know myself where was that location.

Thanks for everything. I owe you. Shitty of me to mess up your vacation

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I still don't know WTF we did wrong but, my MS is working fine despite my limited skills.

A big THANK YOU to you all and specially to CHAD my personal "guru". My apologies for everything. Another satisfied MS customer.

Merry Christmas and happy boosting to all!

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