MS3, MS3x, for a 2002. What to buy?
02-10-2011, 03:30 PM
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Finally? That diagram/post is from last June 
It's part of the creative MS-community, no-one "owns" a complete and comprehensive view of the best method for every specific moment (new stuff gets tested/developed all the time). It doesn't help when old instructions don't get corrected/updated/improved.
The MS3 situation currently is almost comic (or I'm extremely spoiled with the DIYPNP). DIYPNP+VVTuner seems (to me) to be an easier route than an MS3 currently (even if i were to start from scratch).
It's part of the creative MS-community, no-one "owns" a complete and comprehensive view of the best method for every specific moment (new stuff gets tested/developed all the time). It doesn't help when old instructions don't get corrected/updated/improved.
The MS3 situation currently is almost comic (or I'm extremely spoiled with the DIYPNP). DIYPNP+VVTuner seems (to me) to be an easier route than an MS3 currently (even if i were to start from scratch).
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02-10-2011, 03:35 PM
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But, sure you can manage with 5-10% on the other ones if that's whats available.
If I have to order even just some parts, the shipping/handling makes it worthwhile to get it all, or even a couple of sets of components).
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02-10-2011, 04:28 PM
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MS3 is easy, pull the MS2 daughterboard, plug in MS3...done. There's really nothing to MS3 that's really any different from MS2...as far as hardware is concerned.
VVT PID is done in MS3 as well.
Cool guys like me or y8s have just failed to document it. We wanna be exclusive.
I spent like $6 shipped on the components from digikey.com, and that was for (3) circuits worth.
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02-11-2011, 03:21 PM
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Still nothing on the other sensors. I pulled the jumpers and the temps both sit right on 115 degrees. O2 doesn't move, and the TPS value is always at 325. The only thing working is the RPMs.
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02-11-2011, 08:07 PM
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I'm planning to install this MS tomorrow, does this sound like a problem with the stim, or a hardware problem, or a software problem? I'm using the map posted above, and I can post pictures of my board if that would help. I just don't know where to start here.
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02-11-2011, 09:32 PM
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so should I just trust that it works and install it? That makes me nervous because once I start installing it I can't turn back, and I can't leave the car where I work on it overnight.
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02-12-2011, 01:58 AM
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Well, I just went to start building my alternator circuit, but it looks like I accidentally bought a TL431AIP instead of a TL431. The thing I ended up with is "IC ADJ SHUNT REGULATOR 8-DIP" I went back to the digikey website and I can't figure out what I actually need. I suppose the thing I have won't work, so I guess I don't get to start squirting tomorrow. Can anybody help me with what part I do actually need?
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02-12-2011, 09:35 AM
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the TL431AIP might just be a different form factor. like Inline Pin for example.
If the original "D" shaped package pins are 1. Ref, 2. Anode, 3. Cathode
the DIP would be 1. Cathode, 6. Anode, 8. Ref.
Other than size and shape, it looks like the same functionality.
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/TL/TL431A.pdf
If the original "D" shaped package pins are 1. Ref, 2. Anode, 3. Cathode
the DIP would be 1. Cathode, 6. Anode, 8. Ref.
Other than size and shape, it looks like the same functionality.
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/TL/TL431A.pdf
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