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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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cool logo?


not much else i can discuss without more details.
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I just saw this on Facebook - posted by DIY Autotune. I figured you cats in the know might have some deets. :-) Guess not. I haven't been on here a lot lately so I didn't want to assume this was a surprise.

So anyone know anything? I'm just curious. Don't imagine there's any compelling reason to go with this over just updating my MS1.
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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apparently it's a ms2. on a brand new mainboard.

has built in det can with a headphone jack, knock conditioner, can drive low-ohm injectors, some other **** i already forgot what ben just told me.
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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what are the differences between this and the DIYPNP apart from being fully assembled and the price tag?
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spikes
what are the differences between this and the DIYPNP apart from being fully assembled and the price tag?
The case sure is snazzy.
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Would be nice if they had bluetooth connectivity.
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Strictly a 90-97 item? I hope not...99-00 do want!
If this runs a '99 true PNP with all stock sensors and '99 alternator...I'm buyin one.
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Originally Posted by spikes
what are the differences between this and the DIYPNP apart from being fully assembled and the price tag?
And other extra things like I mentioned above, but it's going to be more or less the same. It's a setup for those who don't want to/can't build their own unit. It's still based around the same firmware/software, they just made it in a fully PNP solution. Just like the MSPNP and the MS1.

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Strictly a 90-97 item? I hope not...99-00 do want! If this runs a '99 true PNP with all stock sensors and '99 alternator...I'm buyin one.
While I didn't ask, I'd see no reason they wont release this for 90-05. We arleady have DIYPNPs running those years.
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Very cool. I guess that 1st gen MSpnp9093 in my green car is now effectively a paper-weight when it comes time to replacement. Where are the details on the DIYAutotune exchange plan?
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Response from my question on the DIYAutoTune facebook page

Onboard Peak-n-Hold drivers allow you to run any injectors you'd like, hi-z or low-z.

Improved Knock Circuit that is tuned for the knock frequency of the engine and eliminates noise based on RPM.

Det Can output allows you to plug in headphones to the knock circuit and listen for knock while you tune!

CanBUS is brought out to the spare connector allowing easy addition of external can devices.

Base maps will come ready to fire the car up easily and fine tune. (this is available for some DIYPNP applications, but not for the majority of them)

We are beginning work to build a larger network of tuners that are familiar with and tuning MSPNP Gen2's as well. When we put these in their hands and they see how easily they install and are tuned, and how the results are as good or better than what they've been using, they'll become very familiar with TunerStudio and MSPNP, and that will be a good thing for all of you. We started putting an emphasis on this at PRI, and have further plans to grow and expand this shortly after the release of the first models.

They'll have a warranty since we built and tested them here. Kits are only warrantied against DOA components, not the assembled final product since we didn't do it/test it here.

That's what I see right off the top. I probably missed something....
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How much are they running?
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Can I be in that network of tuners?
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Originally Posted by djp0623

How much are they running?
their target price is $799.
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Would be nice if they had bluetooth connectivity.



Wow yea, that would be amazing.
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Originally Posted by BenR
Would be nice if they had bluetooth connectivity.
We looked into offering this as an extra cost option. It got as far as a working prototype. Turned out to be cheaper to use an off the shelf Bluetooth dongle, and the internal Bluetooth design wasn't any easier to use.

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Strictly a 90-97 item? I hope not...99-00 do want!
If this runs a '99 true PNP with all stock sensors and '99 alternator...I'm buyin one.
The first Miata MSPNPs out the door will be for '90-'93 and '94-'95, but we plan to offer NB versions in the future. One of the reasons for the Gen 2 design was that the Gen 1 design wasn't flexible enough to make a NB Miata MSPNP.
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
The first Miata MSPNPs out the door will be for '90-'93 and '94-'95, but we plan to offer NB versions in the future. One of the reasons for the Gen 2 design was that the Gen 1 design wasn't flexible enough to make a NB Miata MSPNP.
The first MSPNP's were MS-1 based, correct? I can't remember the reasoning, but the MS1 won't work with the NB crank trigger, only MS2+ will. I'm very anxious for this for the NB...I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that.
Need a test dummy?
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correct. and they already have access the NBs in the shop. The only thing that would be holding them back is the alternator control circuit they'd have to build in...otherwise running the NB is nothing new to them. Like I said, we already have MS2 running 90-05.
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
The first Miata MSPNPs out the door will be for '90-'93 and '94-'95, but we plan to offer NB versions in the future. One of the reasons for the Gen 2 design was that the Gen 1 design wasn't flexible enough to make a NB Miata MSPNP.
Why are you guys using MS2 and not MS3?

If I want to run sequential fuel, an NB crank sensor w/ modded CAS for the CMP should I look at the MSpnp2 or MS3?

How much and how soon could you do one for my 1991? (PM me if you want)

I feel like I should "grow up" and put a better computer in my turbo car, its keeping me up at night.
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Originally Posted by hustler
If I want to run sequential fuel, an NB crank sensor w/ modded CAS for the CMP should I look at the MSpnp2 or MS3?
With the Trackspeed 12 tooth crank trigger wheel?

Both can fulfil your requirements.



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