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Old 05-21-2023, 10:46 AM
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So, I'm very confused - got a 1.8 MK2.5 with a turbo and an MSLabs MS3 Basic. Last year on track the crank pulley exploded at the end of the main straight at Snetterton (which was good fun!)
Engine carried on running for a little bit after this had happened as I coasted to a stop but was unable to start it as unknown to me the crank pulley and timing teeth were no more. I have since replaced the crank pulley and started the car and it seemed to run fine (I'm beginning to think I've imagined this now as I'm not having any luck with the car and it's showing no signs of starting.
We've checked fuel and seem to have fuel just before the rail, we've got spark and I've attached some logs but the car just turns over and doesn't show any signs of catching... We're at a loss..
Log of our attempts at cranking earlier today as well as the current tune.

Any help, advice or feedback and ideas would be hugely appreciated, cheers.
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Old 05-21-2023, 12:07 PM
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Let me make sure I understand.
1) Lost crank pulley.
2) replaced crank pulley, and car started and ran fine.
3) now car will not start.

If correct, how much time and driving between 2 and 3?

Likely you want to do a high speed ignition log during cranking. You can also verify signals to injectors with test settings, same with spark.

How did you confirm you have spark?

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Check if the crank trigger is installed in reverse. This will cause the timing to be wrong and thus a no start.
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Cheers for the quick reply;

1-3 are correct and it was about 8-10 months between 2 and 3 and I'm based in the UK so it sat over winter. We had a knackered battery and so tried bump starting the car very recently before realising the issue and replacing the battery (again, I'm wondering if doing that could have somehow broken something?)
I completed a high speed ignition log and it seemed to look correct to me (It was only a very short log and I was having voltage drop issues and need to grab another trigger and tooth log and can share that later this week to see if anything jumps out.

Spark - I've got COP's, pulled plugs and used the Inj/Ign tester within TunerStudio and could visibly see spark. I heard injector clicks when testing those too. I'm slightly worried I have perhaps burnt my injector drivers or something in doing that as I seem to recall that could be a possibility.

I've added a ground to the block with a jumper lead to help rule a funky ground issue out and thinking it may be worth replacing plugs as well due to it sitting a while but I'm at a bit of a loss on what could be causing it. I was also thinking perhaps some injector issue and will pull the plugs and check they're wet during the week too.


Thanks for any help and for replying

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Let me make sure I understand.
1) Lost crank pulley.
2) replaced crank pulley, and car started and ran fine.
3) now car will not start.

If correct, how much time and driving between 2 and 3?

Likely you want to do a high speed ignition log during cranking. You can also verify signals to injectors with test settings, same with spark.

How did you confirm you have spark?

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Old 05-21-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
Check if the crank trigger is installed in reverse. This will cause the timing to be wrong and thus a no start.
Sorry - didn't notice your reply. Cheers, I'll double check but I'm very confident I didn't as I'm sure it started and ran immediately after replacing the crank pulley.
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