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Old 05-31-2009, 07:50 PM   #21
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which DO kit is it? and what size nozzle are you using?
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I cant wait to get mine finished
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which DO kit is it? and what size nozzle are you using?

It is the stage 1 universal kit. The cheapest one. I am running the 7gph nozzle. I tried the 10 and it was just too much.
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awesome...now i know which one to use lol you've helped me make up my mind about getting it lol
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Like i been telling you guys all along keep **** simple and it works
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I am running the 7gph nozzle. I tried the 10 and it was just too much.
Huh.

Without professing to be a WI guru, I find this quite interesting. Based solely upon the calculator provided by DO, I chose to run a 3 GPH nozzle with my kit.

If we assume a maximum of 80% duty cycle on your 550cc injectors, and an actual 7 GPH on your WI system, then your water:fuel ratio is exactly 1:1 at peak load, and greater than that at lesser load. You may be running something other than straight water (like 50% meth) in which case the percentage drops somewhat, but you see where I'm going.

How did you reach the decision to run the 7 GPH nozzle?

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yeah i told him a 3gph as well. Iono how he reasoned his choice but i assumed he just grabbed the biggest one he had first and stepped down etc. Hell I barely run a 7gph on both of my nozzles put together.
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Huh.

Without professing to be a WI guru, I find this quite interesting. Based solely upon the calculator provided by DO, I chose to run a 3 GPH nozzle with my kit.

If we assume a maximum of 80% duty cycle on your 550cc injectors, and an actual 7 GPH on your WI system, then your water:fuel ratio is exactly 1:1 at peak load, and greater than that at lesser load. You may be running something other than straight water (like 50% meth) in which case the percentage drops somewhat, but you see where I'm going.

How did you reach the decision to run the 7 GPH nozzle?
I am not seeing how 7gph is a 1:1 ratio. 7gph is 441cc/min. I am running 1760cc/min of fuel at 80% duty cycle. They say that the more extreme setups run a 1:4 water to fuel ratio, the less extreme run around 1:10 water to fuel ratio. I am wanting 400whp on stock motor, also, i want to run a LOT of timing, so i considered my setup to be on the extreme side.
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I have 4 nozzles, 3,7,10,and 12 gph. I spoke with chance at devils own and we came to the conclusion that i would need 10-12 gph once i really start making power.
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Yeah but you could probly wean abit of it off and still be good. You need to find a ballance between your capacity and your consumption. That is why i have a 2 stage system, well that and the drivability issues of a 7gph nozzle at 4 psi would be horrible. You might need a bigger snail for 400 but you will certianly be into the 300's with avengance using your setup.
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Yeah but you could probly wean abit of it off and still be good. You need to find a ballance between your capacity and your consumption. That is why i have a 2 stage system, well that and the drivability issues of a 7gph nozzle at 4 psi would be horrible. You might need a bigger snail for 400 but you will certianly be into the 300's with avengance using your setup.
Yeah, I am shooting for 350whp on this turbo. Hell, i may puke a rod a 290, we'll see.
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I am not seeing how 7gph is a 1:1 ratio. 7gph is 441cc/min. I am running 1760cc/min of fuel at 80% duty cycle.
I fail at basic math.
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I fail at basic math.
Haha it's all good. I thought maybe you had a 1 cylinder miata or something
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That map is CRAZY! Your CRAZY! Good luck! Got more ballz than me.
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Haha it's all good. I thought maybe you had a 1 cylinder miata or something
Nah, I was just thinking that maybe you were running TBI.

You've inspired me to do some further research into the subject, and I am finding some evidence to support the use of fuel:water ratios as high as 4:1 for minimum EGT, and given that my "water" is actually 50% "fuel", I am seriously contemplating the use of a larger injection nozzle. Combined with the fact that I'm using a 2d progressive controller, I may be able to get away with quite a lot here.
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That map is CRAZY! Your CRAZY! Good luck! Got more ballz than me.

Haha, not too crazy for a good meth setup. This is where i got my inspiration.

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Ahh that looks familiar i been telling you guys not to be punks for years and Wes finally steped up i hope you are next joe and Scot needs to get on board as well.
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Ahh that looks familiar i been telling you guys not to be punks for years and Wes finally steped up i hope you are next joe and Scot needs to get on board as well.
Haha, it should. I thought Joe already was running WI?
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he is but he is being a ***** about it he needs some big boy pants like we wear in KY and Indiana.
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he is but he is being a ***** about it he needs some big boy pants like we wear in KY and Indiana.
That's right. More Timing. More Boost. More Power!
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