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Old 04-19-2007, 01:35 AM   #1
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i was doing some design research today and found this.

i was particularly interested in these.

it would be pretty helpful for concealing a tank or putting one in a difficult area to access and refill.
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Nice find! Do they have a price list? Still looking for a tank with a low level switch....kinda like how our brake fluid resevoir works.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:47 AM   #3
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you can get low-level switches from aquamist and other places (Devils Own or Coolingmist--I forget which). Drill and mount. two wires to run.

I think you'll have to call flambeau themselves up...
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what's his face was looking for a filler thing like that.
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0.25L

Bit small, i'd have to pop out the car at every traffic light and fill it up.

I'm running a 8.5L water tank and find i have to fill it up about once a week.



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once a week heck i filled up once a day, with my 6-7 liter tanks. You must not drive to hard
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once a week heck i filled up once a day, with my 6-7 liter tanks. You must not drive to hard
I only do 10 miles a week

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In 10 miles something must be way wrong with your setup. can you break it down for me. You should not use 8 liters in 10 miles. There is no way. you would have to be running a 12 gallon per hour nozzle at full steam. or 800 cc/min if you will.
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In 10 miles something must be way wrong with your setup. can you break it down for me. You should not use 8 liters in 10 miles. There is no way. you would have to be running a 12 gallon per hour nozzle at full steam. or 800 cc/min if you will.
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So spill it man what are you running. Something does not seem rigth here. this is akin to a 15 mpg miata, there is no way you are getting this much usage and having the kit perform the way it should.
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i was being sarcastic, English humour sorry
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I do between 300km- 500km a week and i get through about 8 Litres of water in that time.

I use distilled water, and it comes in 4 litre bottles so it's fairly easy to keep track.

Remember this is Athens though, so 3/4 of all journey time is in traffic jams.
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1 gph nozzle given standard pressure hmm you most definetly need more tunning.
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what's his face was looking for a filler thing like that.

If you are meaning ME, I solved the problem and built a remote fill system:
http://www.lightweightmiata.com/wate...rinjection.htm
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clever.

that page i linked has larger tanks, you have to click through some of the links.
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i can build custom tanks for whatever space you need it, i do Fiberglass as a hobby... I drive an NA so name a spot and i can get started on a project... lol... well the only thing i can't build is the part with the lid just because thats a pain in the a$$
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what about a tank that fits in the well of the trunk, in the center?

i wonder if one could be fit under the passenger's seat? (low center of gravity)
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1 gph nozzle given standard pressure hmm you most definetly need more tunning.
I've got 2 jets, 0.3mm preSC and a 0.4mm on the dummy TB.

I've measured the flow at various duty cycles (HSV and EMU).


10% DC = 50ml/min
30% DC = 142ml/min
50% DC = 200ml/min

I've not physically measured the injectors, but they are rated at 430cc/min.
430cc x 4 = 1730cc/min at 100% DC
15% (water) = 260cc

I'm squirting a max of 60% DC (water) but gradually decreasing this level depending on my Injector DC.
I'm starting injecting fairly early compared to other WI systems i've seen as i'm starting at 1psi.
But as 15% is only 28ml/min of water i recon i'm alright.


I've tried various levels, but i feel as though i start losing a bit of throttle response at over 20% water.

This is my install:
http://mx5nutz.drmryan.co.uk/forum/i...46&hl=aquamist


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1 psi is to low you dont need WI for 3-4 psi start higher and you wont be quenching the exhaust as bad. Also why not go 100% DC that is what i run it works. The Variable dealy you use should not be effected by this.
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what about a tank that fits in the well of the trunk, in the center?

i wonder if one could be fit under the passenger's seat? (low center of gravity)
i think the trunk idea would work nice... can you make me a sketch as to where the fittings would go and what the top of it would look and i'll make a DIY guide on it...
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