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Old 10-11-2006, 06:43 PM   #21
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This has to be a marketing tactic to undervalue Begi products. Great deal though!
Naah ... they sell all sorts of things as deal of the day - nothing to do with undervaluing Begi products (esp. something that is tried and proven).

Its more a way of driving people to their website (be honest now - who checks *most* days to see what the deal of the day is). Then people see the news about the new turbo kit etc etc etc and endup buying a ton of FM stuff thats not at DOTD pricing. Simple marketing.
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If they were selling the BEGI AFPRs for $100 then I'd say they were just clearing stock. But selling for $25 is some sort of **** you to BEGI I think. I suspect that Mr Bell has told FM that he will no longer supply them with anything, including the AFPR.

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flyin miata never really bought the afpr's though. they are just ones that were pulled off customer cars i'm sure. what caused the falling out between them in the first place?
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If they were selling the BEGI AFPRs for $100 then I'd say they were just clearing stock. But selling for $25 is some sort of **** you to BEGI I think. I suspect that Mr Bell has told FM that he will no longer supply them with anything, including the AFPR.

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If they were NIB, then I agree. But they're not. They are pulls from cars that came in with them, but rolled out with Links and Hydras. It's a free $25 for FM--on top of profit received from both their original sale and standalone install.
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Heh, the guys sticking by the fmu/bipes etc setups sound like the turbo honda guys a few years ago with their vafc hacks and fmu/aux pump setups. Better options came along... and people took awhile to realize the gains to be seen across the board.

Just wait... it'll happen
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no we understand that there are things that are more efficient, don't get me wrong, but those other things have the cost deterant. Also while some ECUs aren't that complicated, the fpr and bipes, is alot less complicated.
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Heh, the guys sticking by the fmu/bipes etc setups sound like the turbo honda guys a few years ago with their vafc hacks and fmu/aux pump setups. Better options came along... and people took awhile to realize the gains to be seen across the board.

Just wait... it'll happen
And the point of this is what? Those of us who haven't bought into the Megasquirt are idiots who haven't seen the light yet?

All of these things are just tools to get a job done. Why some people feel so strongly about there solution is beyond me. The MS might be great, but at this point I don't care as my bandaid solution gets me to where I want to be with very little fuss.

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seems like I got the guy on the right. Doesn't look like a BEGI unit, anyone know what it is?
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Since when did the megasquirt geeks start acting like the link snobs?

Keep workin on your squirt. I'll be driving.


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seems like I got the guy on the right. Doesn't look like a BEGI unit, anyone know what it is?
You got it already? It's the older pre billet model. It will work fine. Looks like the better deal of the two because it's complete.
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yep just got it today. it's not complete. Didn't come with the bottom barbs, wonder why.
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They must have had more than what was pictured. I don't know what size fittings you need, but I'm sure you can get them locally.
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yep just got it today. it's not complete. Didn't come with the bottom barbs, wonder why.

Nor did mine.... just get two 1/8" to 5/16" fittings, no biggie.
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man it was such a pita to get the 1/8"-5/16" fittings... found a source locally, but it's like 30 mins away :\ Interesting enough, there is pipe thread tape residue on the afpr. I thought that was a no-no. Braineack, they sell the dixon gauges you were looking for, though it's special order.
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pepboys, ace, lowes, home depot, autozone should all carry the fittings.

I used teflon tape on mine (without it they leaked). But I wrapped them in a manner that it couldn't enter the fuel stream.

I found a local source for good pressure gauges finally.
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pepboys, ace, lowes, home depot, autozone should all carry the fittings.

I used teflon tape on mine (without it they leaked). But I wrapped them in a manner that it couldn't enter the fuel stream.

I found a local source for good pressure gauges finally.
Home Depots over here don't carry 1/8"-5/16". The nearest Lowes is like 30min away, nearest autozone is as well, and same with pepboys.

San Francisco doesn't like big boxes, so you have to go out to the 'burbs :(.
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yep just got it today. it's not complete. Didn't come with the bottom barbs, wonder why.
'cause it was $25 :gay:
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But just because it works.... doesn't mean its good. A real tuning system can pull so much more out of a setup and gain so much reliability back... its hard to ignore.
I forgot that my FPR is not real. Its just some POS UFO that looks neat. I just bought it so that I could have more bling under the hood. I have run an FPR setup for over 4 years, I dont see any reliability issues, care to explain them please.
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replace "reliability" with "more tuneability" and you could have a winning argument.

But then again, just because a piggyback/ems works doesn't mean it's totally necessary.
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