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NeedDirection 10-26-2015 05:11 PM

Has anyone pushed these turbos to see power potential?

sixshooter 10-26-2015 05:22 PM

They are over 300 already

NeedDirection 10-26-2015 07:20 PM

Un sure if this is a troll post pahahaha. Dyno graphs? Been paying a fair amount of attention on this. Haven't seen anything over 230 yet. I would love a cheap replacement to the msm setup that will maximize a rods only build. Keep leaning towards this setup.

sonofthehill 10-26-2015 10:51 PM

I don't have a good dyno graph but I am definitely able to make 13psi by 3 grand in 4th gear and hold it to 6700 or so(maybe I should check logs from when Nigel was driving:likecat:, )no problem going higher. Actually I am finally getting my closed loop working well enough that I don't hit overboost all the time, I set it at 205kpa so I wouldn't bend my stock rods, easily done IMHO with this kit. Even through the ass of my high flow cat. Passing the 5k mark on the MKturbo kit and still as responsive as ever :bigtu:
I changed my thermostat temp as well as IAT location and have been retuning when I have time. Pretty busy, and I am not sure when I can get on a dyno again, hopefully soon.
Too bad the group buy is over but it is still a bargain at $1600 if Lars will still do a catted system for that price. I am a very satisfied customer, thanks again for everything Lars!

NeedDirection 10-27-2015 05:03 AM

Sonofthehill, are you on stock rods and pistons? I like the fact that this turbo has the ability to put 200ft/lbs before 4k rpm unlike the msm turbo but most importantly doesn't choke out on the top end. Msm turbos make a fairly large spike at 4k or a Lil after and quickly taper to 6500. It is noticeable while driving. Just curious if it will make power as high as 275-325whp. If it will then I am game for grabbing one if these kits when he starts stocking them.

deezums 10-27-2015 05:24 AM

It makes ~250 on a otherwise stock 1.6, so yeah, no prob.

Search google for mazda miata turbo dyno, it's the first result.

shuiend 10-27-2015 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by NeedDirection (Post 1278675)
Has anyone pushed these turbos to see power potential?

Not as far as I know. I was planning on it and then my built motor died. I think everyone who has purchased a setup so far has been on a stock motor.

sonofthehill 10-27-2015 11:51 AM

Aside from my megasquirt, flow force injectors and this kit my car is bone stock with over 230k. I have not been in an msm so I can't compare but my car pulls hard until I let off the throttle. As stated in an earlier post, my tight ass don't tend to rev past 6500 cause I'm scared of breaking shit, so I really can't say.

NeedDirection 10-27-2015 02:06 PM

What boost level is the 250 at? And what boost level has anyone (not necessarily a miata) used with this turbo? I know it was stated that this wouldn't be a good choice of a kit to upgrade off of but is there any turbo options that are a tad bigger that will fit and mount to the manifold? Down pipe altering would be fine by me.

shuiend 10-27-2015 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by NeedDirection (Post 1278988)
What boost level is the 250 at? And what boost level has anyone (not necessarily a miata) used with this turbo? I know it was stated that this wouldn't be a good choice of a kit to upgrade off of but is there any turbo options that are a tad bigger that will fit and mount to the manifold? Down pipe altering would be fine by me.

Braineack ran the same turbo at 14-15psi for years on his 1.6 and was making around 240-250whp. I think if you turn up the boost to the 20psi range on a 1.8 the turbo should break 300whp easily. I was hoping to show that somewhat soon, broke motor killed that. I should be swapping in another built motor soon, but don't have an eta. I have a local friend who has a rods only 99 motor build. Once he gets around to bringing the car over and I get the setup built we will be testing on that one also.

Theoretically any turbo with a t3 flange should fit on the manifold. You will need to alter the down pipe, but you say that would be ok. I did not really plan for the setup to be used for large power builds. Mostly because if you are going with a built motor, you can realistically afford to get a baller setup from TSE, ARTech, FAb9, Begi, or FM.

NeedDirection 10-27-2015 03:46 PM

That all sounds good to me. Everything you offer seems to be able to take big power if some one wanted. I have danced around how much power I want to make but realistically haven't made much progress to do much. This seems to have a bit better flow to carry the torque further out into the powerband over the msm turbo and be perfect for what I will be happy with. The different turbo question is just a reassurance that If I wanted more power then I could continue use of a good majority of test parts. Thank you! Looking forward to the 2nd quarter of 16 to purchase one if these kits!!

bradybunz 10-28-2015 05:36 PM

long term reliability on he turbo? long term as in 10k+ ?

bahurd 10-28-2015 06:18 PM

MK Turbo Group Buy #2 Now going on
 

Originally Posted by bradybunz (Post 1279280)
long term reliability on he turbo? long term as in 10k+ ?

You can buy a spare turbo for $200 and it takes maybe an hour to change out anything that might wear assuming failure isn't because of FOD which, if so, you have bigger issues.

Corifto 10-28-2015 09:10 PM

Got my Happy Meal and fuel pump today. I am excite.

ludeguy 10-29-2015 04:48 AM

Very interested for my NA... Has anyone used it on the tracks extensively?

shuiend 10-29-2015 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by ludeguy (Post 1279386)
Very interested for my NA... Has anyone used it on the tracks extensively?

A few customers have taken it out on track. None of them are overly fast. If you are planning on tracking extensively then you need to save up and get a TSE, or Artech setup. My setups are not built for track use, nor will I warranty them for such.

shuiend 11-01-2015 08:50 PM

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I have been busy dealing with my blown motor, so not a huge amount of work has been done recently. Today I did spend some time out in the garage working on the 1.8 manifolds though. This coming weekend I drive up to MD to pick up midpipes. So the real work will start once I have those.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446429037

JxPhan 11-02-2015 03:10 PM

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shuiend 11-12-2015 09:31 AM

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15 NA midpipes.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447338718

5 NB midpipes.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447338718

bahurd 11-12-2015 09:51 AM

^ So much nicer mandrel bent! My NB is going to be so jealous of the NA... :party:


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