Loki047

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haha lazzer if that is a response to my post i dont think you read it.

lazzer408

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Yes I read it. Yes it was a conversation response.

magnamx-5

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the best thing to do is shut up until your lawyer gets there dont let them **** with you at all. If you say nothiung then you make it alot harder to incriminate yourself.

Philip

high drama

lazzer408

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I had to... hehehe

Slidin'Miata916

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Me, when I had My Mustang Haha

Nlynd1978

First i am the one who bought the motor from Arif. Bad mistake on my part but how was i suposed to know. But After 6 hours at the Northbrook police station, dealing with 3 different juristictions let me say, they do care. They have recovered 6 of the cars he stole and are looking for more possiblities. My motor was from a seventh car they thought he stole but couldnt find (and other then the motor havent found)They will want the parts. Ive been told that, as well as was told Its not a question on if but when they come and take them ie locating them. As of right now i am waiting to find out whats going to happen to the motor in my car. Weather i will be allowed to keep it or if i must buy it (again) or if they just take it back. and thats after i find out when they are impounding it as evidence in the case. so dont kid your self that they dont care. They dont care if it incoviences you to take the parts you bought but they do care if its going to help them win there case.

Anywho, Currently they have charges for
felony aggrivated possesion 3 (or more?)stolen cars
unlawful possesion certified titlex5
felony obstruction of justice
destruction of evidence
traffice offense
driving without license
felony theft
as well as unmentioned charges, including something with vin's.

and thats just Cook County. lake County is pressing the charges over the motor he sold me, Posesion and Selling stolen good or what ever they call it.

aperently he would shop cars on ebay then go steal them. he had several sets of keys, tumblers, vins, and titles at his house. They have him on at least 6 stolen vehicles and possesion of a seventh which is were my motor came from. he stole the car to get me the motor just days before he called to tell me he found a motor for me. What started this all was appently (from what i was able to piece together so i may not be 100% correct on this), one of the re-vined cars couldnt be registared and that got the cops involed. They traced it back to him eventualy. State police Cook County sherifs and the Northbrook police where all involed in this.

Also any DA worth a salt will take a plea, why not, its a automatic guilty if arif does. And with that many felonies who wouldnt. A plea would allow him to reduce his sentence and maybee get some of the lower charges droped and it gets the DA a win plus they get to know who he sold/gave/traded/ or anyother type of deals with to recover the parts. There evidence in the case duh Saying they dont care is like saying that the murder weapon in a case doesnt mater.

Slidin'Miata916

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Haha. Very Nice Statement. I havent read anything that long in a while.

magnamx-5

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yeah i am sorry you are in limbo with your car. I would think the insurance company could help you out there and replace the other dudes **** if he comes forward, other than that a refund of the purchase price should be in order somewhere there as well. Like you said before they have him for 6 whole cars why did you need to bother to make it 7 is it more trouble for him to get in or what? If you took the vin off the old motor and or just transferred the oil pan no one would know one way or another. what if you had already killed that motor would they have you submit a working unit. The system sucks man.

Nlynd1978

I had a few reasons and after consulting a lawyer as to the consenquenses of not going to the police vs talking to them.

1. say he talks. DA and the investigating detecives show up, impound my car till they can determine the truth. i am sure they can figure out that the motor was not put in my car originally (forensics are great) and with that knowldge they pressure me into telling them everything anyways and know i might face charges.

2. Transfering the vin is almost impossible unless you know where to get the special rivets mazda used. Not to mention kinda telling since it would be all freshly cleaned there, whens the last time any one here cleaned the vin plate on there motor? not counting reading this and doing it to be smart.

3. I think the detecives would be able to tell (again forensics are great) that i pulled the motor recently and changed the oil pan. The hint of fresh oil, sealants, gaskets, a clue sherlock?

4. If ever the vin on the motor was run, due to any reason, and it comes back stolen, the cops are knocking on my door anyways.

5. Finally besides the fact that any of that above is illegal, think about this, if your car was stolen, and parted out, with no hope of catching the person who did it, even if you know who, wouldnt you want some one with the right info to catch him to come forward. Every one here loves there car. I mean come on this is a forum (one of many) devoted to one type of car. Think about walking out side and finding your car missing. Wouldnt you want it back, wouldnt you want the person who did it caught. I would. I not the greatest person in the world but i would be crushed if my car was stolen after my hard work rebuilding it from a trashed car to a clean fun machine. I can only imagine how some of you might feel.

Now hopefully you read this far, cause i dont mean this as a come back, **** off replay. This is simply how i felt. yeah the system sucks. yeah i am probly going to get hosed. I highly doubt any insurance covers anything like this though i plan on calling my ins company today. ill probably be paying to build another motor that will take me months due to my current finances. It sucks but atleast i did the right thing. Sorry if some people dissagree with me, hell i agrued this with my friend. But in the end it was the right thing to do, and i didnt want any problems now or down the road.

Braineack

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in the meantime. file a civil case against him

magnamx-5

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If my car is stolen it is a loss. If you ended up with my motor then fine. I have had my oil pan off 3-4 times this year man. I see what you are saying man i sure as hell would not want to be in your situation.

Loki047

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Right, but i was responding to someones post who said something along the lines of turn everything over before Arif pleas, and well the DA and cops arent going to get anywhere with people who bought stolen parts, just more evidence and well hoenstly there was enough against him.


And to be honest, it was the right thing to do and thats why it should be done, not because you're afraid of the cops

Splitime

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I applaud Nlynd1978 and Lazzer for forwarding the info to him. It is absolutely the right thing to do. Lets hope this kid spends some quality time in prison.

And his myspace buddy RAM.... who also looks to have served time earlier this year (from readding myspace msgs posted) doesn't get a chance to have his "getting out" drink for a long time....

Nlynd1978

thanks splitime, well its almost time to go betray my love. have to fix the stealth today incase my miata goes to car jail

Ben

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Pulling the motor and giving it back is most definately the right thing to do. Terrible that you get punished for it.

The theif may be ordered to make restitution as part of his conviction. But I think the court imposed fines get paid off first, so you'll probably never see anything there. You could also just go ahead and file in small claims. You'll win, but you'll probably never collect.

Sad times. The good guys always get punished while the bad guys get 3 hots and a cot.

Splitime

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The kid is from a fairly wealthy area in the Chicago suburbs... assuming he was living under his families roof... maybe his family can be held responsible.

Ben

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if the kid is 17, he's an adult and his parents are not liable. If he's 16 or younger, yeah the family would be liable. Still wouldn't mean that anyone will actually collect though. You could always put leins on one's property, but if they never sell the property, you never get paid.

If he's over 17, and I assume he is, then the only way the father would be liable is if he is found to be an accomplice. I doubt the kid would roll on his dad, even if he was involved. With 6+ stolen cars it's likely that the father knew about his son's criminal enterprise, but it would be hard to prove.

The whole situation sucks. There are two victims; the guy who's **** was stolen, and the guy who unknowingly purchased stolen items in good faith. Both get punished. Arif will do a few months and spend a couple years on probation. No one wins.

Fireindc

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Holy **** man, i thought I was the only one...

He scammed me out of 50$ for a window regulator and begged i not report him via paypal, being a nice, kind hearted fellow i figured id give him his chance to refund me.. and he never responded back to any of my messages- and the few he did he promised he'd refund soon. Before i knew it i had taken too long and couldn't even make a claim..

I never posted about it on here because i knew people would give me **** for never filing for the money via paypal.. so i just ate the 50 bucks(which is alot when you dont make ****)

y8s

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sucks man. that's pretty much how scammers get away with it. 1. take too long so you can't file a claim and 2. embarass you so you dont bring it up.