Testing Waters: Innovate Stand Alone Wideband Kit - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Miata parts for sale/trade Buy, trade or sell your Miata parts here.

Closed Thread
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-15-2007, 10:50 AM   #1
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default Testing Waters: Innovate Stand Alone Wideband Kit

Right now I'm running a Innovate LC-1 & XD-16 stand alone wideband kit, but I'm considering selling it as a new ECU I'm looking at requires a different wideband kit.

Would anyone be interested in purchasing my used kit? Less than 3k miles on everything, and includes everything (box, manuals, software, controller, gauge, sensor, wiring harness, serial cable, etc) except for the bung (which are what, $5). Prefer to sell together, but will seperate the gauge from the controller if there are buyers for both. Offers welcomed.
Ben is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 10:57 AM   #2
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,899
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

question....why would a new ECU require a different wideband controller??
Braineack is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 10:59 AM   #3
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
question....why would a new ECU require a different wideband controller??
Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Website
Wideband option for Hydra Nemesis
The Hydra is not compatible with other wideband sensors. This wideband is not compatible with other ECUs.
Ben is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 11:13 AM   #4
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,281
Total Cats: 2
Default

how much$$? Id buy it if the price was reasonable.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 11:16 AM   #5
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,921
Total Cats: 0
Default

They hydra ECU itself has a wideband controller built in and also uses a different type of sensor.

Not loving the EMU Ben?

Jay
jayc72 is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 11:23 AM   #6
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Atlanta93LE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 2,198
Total Cats: 1
Default

I'd buy the LC-1 from you, but not the gauge. Wouldn't you love to keep the LC-1 local?
Atlanta93LE is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 11:24 AM   #7
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,921
Total Cats: 0
Default

How much would you want for the gauge?
jayc72 is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 11:41 AM   #8
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayc72 View Post
Not loving the EMU Ben?
Jay
Actually, I really do like the EMU, a whole lot. It does a pretty good job, 99% of the time. Only thing I can knock it for is the car idles a little rich from time to time. Idle is still smooth, I don't have any complaint with idle quality, but the wb does show it to be rich sometimes. I attribute that to the 550 cc injectors because closed loop cruise is regulated well. Probably would regulate idle a bit better with some 460s. Open loop (boosted) acceleration is regulated very well. The timing map is awesome too. Oh, and after a couple of minor tweaks to Joe's airflow output map, running without the AFM was achieved. My car overall runs stronger and smoother than before. And the datalogging is the ****.

My disappointment is that I beat it too quickly. Not a bad thing I suppose, but I honestly I got it set up in only a few hours. Plus I've now that I've actually experienced the capability of a piggy, I'm thinking I'll be amazed with a stand alone.
Ben is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 12:02 PM   #9
Newb
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben View Post
Honestly, one of the most annoying "features" of the Hydra. Almost any other ECU will work with most wideband sensors. It also means if your NGK sensor dies you will have to pay 4x the price of the Bosch sensor. All this without any clear advantage for the NGK sensor.
Nurburgring is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 12:06 PM   #10
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,899
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

ahhh, didnt realize you were thinking hydra.
Braineack is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 12:10 PM   #11
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
ahhh, didnt realize you were thinking hydra.
Yeah, I *want* the Hydra. Just don't want to have to pay for it. Closed loop in boost is the ****.
Ben is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 12:11 PM   #12
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

If I could get $300 for the whole thing, I think it would be a good deal all around....
Ben is offline  
Old 02-15-2007, 01:19 PM   #13
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 596
Total Cats: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben View Post
Idle is still smooth, I don't have any complaint with idle quality, but the wb does show it to be rich sometimes. I attribute that to the 550 cc injectors because closed loop cruise is regulated well. Probably would regulate idle a bit better with some 460s.
You may be right about the 550s causing a rich idle. With my 460s I was at 19.9-15.2 AFR at idle. I got the car emmisions tested 2 days before I shipped it out to you and the car passed with flying colors. I registered 4 PPM on HC with a max allowable of 220 and 0% CO with a max allawable of 1.2%. All this on a car (and engine) with 229K miles on it.
sbrian2 is offline  
 
 
Closed Thread

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Noob to Miataturbo from MA JxPhan Meet and Greet 3 10-02-2015 03:17 AM
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump $50 lsc224 Miata parts for sale/trade 2 10-01-2015 10:17 AM
wiring wideband ground to battery terminal btabor ECUs and Tuning 10 09-28-2015 06:33 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:32 PM.