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EO2K 05-28-2014 04:58 PM

Well that sounds somewhat less than optimal. You know me, I'm patient ;)

redrider706 05-29-2014 04:26 PM

Reverant, can this interface be extended to communicate with multiple units (i.e. MTX-L gauges (oil temp/pressure), MTX-L wideband etc..) and send the data via CAN?

Thanks,
-Raj

Reverant 05-30-2014 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by redrider706 (Post 1135250)
Reverant, can this interface be extended to communicate with multiple units (i.e. MTX-L gauges (oil temp/pressure), MTX-L wideband etc..) and send the data via CAN?

Thanks,
-Raj

I tried to do this, however the innovate protocol is Innovate's own products is not followed down to the T.

This means that unless I have your exact MTS serial chain here on the bench to test (which I don't), then I probably can't make it work.

I did make it work for a chain of 1x LM-1 and 4x LC-1s - the protocol used was somewhat different to what Innovate said it should be, again it wouldn't had worked if I didn't have these available to test.

Ben 06-09-2014 11:26 AM

Sent you an email Dimitris.

redrider706 06-09-2014 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1135345)
I tried to do this, however the innovate protocol is Innovate's own products is not followed down to the T.

This means that unless I have your exact MTS serial chain here on the bench to test (which I don't), then I probably can't make it work.

I did make it work for a chain of 1x LM-1 and 4x LC-1s - the protocol used was somewhat different to what Innovate said it should be, again it wouldn't had worked if I didn't have these available to test.


Thanks for the info Reverant.

-Raj

Reverant 06-09-2014 12:20 PM

Currently supported widebands:

- Innovate LC-1, LC-2, MTX-L
- AEM UEGO 30-4100, 30-2310
- Zeitronix ZT-2

Pending compatibility: PLX SM-AFR Gen2 and Gen3 (we have these on the bench right now, so its only a matter of days).

Do you have a different wideband and you want the module but your wideband is not supported? PM me and I'll see if I can get it added!

UrbanSoot 08-12-2014 03:11 AM

What did you guys do to secure the PCB inside the enclosure? I'm assuming you only have 1 wall on your enclosure like I do.

Oscar 08-12-2014 05:43 AM

I was thinking a little foamrubber and some zipties.

freedomgli 08-12-2014 10:45 AM

Oscar I think UrbanSoot was referring to how the PCB was secured inside of the enclosure, not how to secure the module to the vehicle chassis.

I haven't taken mine apart to see what it looks like inside. I did take a peek inside my MS3 and it looks like any other hobby level controller so I wouldn't have high expectations for OEM-level robustness in the design of the CAN module, either. This is why you have to mount your ECU inside the car to protect it from the elements. And this is also why it's probably a good idea to do what you can to dampen vibration with foam placed strategically between chassis and enclosure, especially if you have really stiff suspension.

Oscar 08-12-2014 11:59 AM

I know exactly what he's talking about, but thanks for your concern. I have the same module with 1 open end where the pcb can slide out. Securing to the chassis would be the easiest to figure out.

freedomgli 08-12-2014 12:11 PM

Ah, ok. I understand now. Sorry about that. My enclosure is different and is closed on both ends. Is yours an early beta version or something?

EO2K 08-12-2014 12:47 PM

Mine is also enclosed on both ends. :dunno:

Its a pretty standard sized enclosure. Get the dimensions and maybe order something from Mouser?

UrbanSoot 08-13-2014 12:47 AM

I've secured it with some masking tape for the time being, but that definitely needs to be fixed properly. I think I'll just design something and have it 3D printed.

As for securing things to the chassis - I use 4" wide velcro. It secures things really well and it dampens a lot of the vibrations.

Ryephile 08-20-2014 03:57 PM

Oh man I didn't see this thread until now. I definitely want one of these for my upcoming MS3 Basic and newly acquired LC-2. PM sent.

*edit* magi-PM from Dr. Rev. Thanks!

cyotani 08-20-2014 04:03 PM

is the decrease in latency and noise gained by switch to a CAN communication Lamda going to be noticeable at all? I understand digital is better but is it worth the cost and complexity?

EO2K 08-20-2014 04:09 PM

I felt it was, but that may just me.

We discussed this over in the https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...ms-labs-69930/ thread, with some additional detail as well. :bigtu:

mx5-kiwi 09-11-2014 02:03 AM

Reverant, I am not at my work pc but am very interested in this unit as well. If you get a chance to pm me the cost etc...

I notice what you said about the innovate protocol being slightly different so presume this wont work in line with AIM dash either?

joyrider 11-14-2014 01:16 AM

BTW if someone from Canada or USA is ordering an ECU with a CAN interface module, I'm down for another one. Please PM !

FatKao 03-28-2015 02:15 PM

Has anyone ever seen a UEGO (30-4100) not output anything on the serial line? I get voltage on the analog line, but zip over digital. The MS3 gives 7.5 for the AFR when set to CAN EGO. and I can't get anything over my serial adapter. I made sure that pin 2 is what my adapter is expecting for data.

Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)

bahurd 03-28-2015 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by FatKao (Post 1219401)
Has anyone ever seen a UEGO (30-4100) not output anything on the serial line? I get voltage on the analog line, but zip over digital. The MS3 gives 7.5 for the AFR when set to CAN EGO. and I can't get anything over my serial adapter. I made sure that pin 2 is what my adapter is expecting for data.

Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)

I think you'll need to contact Rev directly on that (CAN pin #)


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