Originally Posted by FatKao
(Post 1219401)
Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1219437)
The CAN module is not related to the OEM analog O2 sensor (which is also not used at all with the Basic MS3), so I don't understand the question here.
I have a few buddies locally that also have UEGOs, I'm going to swap controllers with one of them and see if that fixes my issue. |
I recently purchased and installed one of these modules along with an MS3 Basic from Reverant. The MS3 is working great so far (hasn't left the garage yet though) but the CAN module is not. For the benefit of others I thought I would post my issue and (hopefully) resolution here. I have sent the following message to Rev:
"...I am having some trouble getting the CAN WBO2 working though. In the mean time I set the EGO port back to "Normal EGO" and I am using the analogue output on my AEM UEGO. There was about a 0.4 AFR offset between the gauge and tuner studio, so I compensated with a custom calibration. What do I need to do to get the CAN module working? I verified that I am getting a proper serial data stream from the AEM by plugging it directly into my laptop with a serial adapter and running hyperterminal, so I know it is wired correctly - unless the CAN module requires different wiring than specified in the AEM manual? (Pin 2 for data and Pin 5 for ground, if I recall?)." Anyone else have a similar issue? I assume it's probably just a setting in Tunerstudio somewhere that I am missing (or don't understand!) |
I bought this module to gain some precision but can't get it to work properly...
I enable Can EGO, put CAN EGO for the wideband setting and the value stay at 7.xx in TunerStudio. Analog do work fine. Can I damage something trying to reverse CAN H and CAN L ? I bought it from CowGod could it be set for something else ? |
Just want to let you guys know that the INI file was set for AEM, Dimitris handle it and its now perfect.
YOU NEED THAT !!!!!! Awesome no more offset and dyno is better... MOAR |
It is awesome, isn't it? :party:
So... how exactly did you get into the INI for the device? :naughty: |
<p>Couple questions.</p><p>1. Can this device share the bus with multiple CAN device (MS3, Wideband Can Module, Racecapture datalogger). Is the termination resistor capable of being disabbled by a jumper or something. </p><p>2. Can the wideband input on my MS3basic be repurposed as a spare analog input for a pressure sensor or another analog 0-5V device? </p>
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1) Yes
2) No |
Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1243296)
<p>Couple questions.</p><p>1. Can this device share the bus with multiple CAN device (MS3, Wideband Can Module, Racecapture datalogger). Is the termination resistor capable of being disabbled by a jumper or something. </p>
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1243355)
1) Yes
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<p>Couple more questions. </p><p> </p><p>1. Trackspeed mentions an optional OBD port option for this. (http://www.trackspeedengineering.com/MSLabs-CAN-Wideband-Module.html)</p><p>Does this mean it combines the wideband CAN functionality with your other OBDII-CAN output module? (https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-miata-accessories-89/obd-ii-data-module-all-ms2-ms3-ecus-79429)</p><p> </p><p>2. If it does, that thread mentions the capability of outputting custom PIDs such as oil pressure and temp read by the spare analog input channels of the MS3. Can these be output and displayed on a ScanGauge II via the OBD2 module and has anyone done something similar? </p><p> </p><p>If it can do this I'm pretty much sold!</p>
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Question : Does this Canbus interface work with DIY products such as my ms2pnp, or is it proprietary to MS-Labs?
I see that I have canbus H/L inputs on my option connector, but I am an electronics novice. I would gladly pluck down the money to get rid of infuriating voltage offsets by going this route. |
Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1243470)
Couple more questions.
1. Trackspeed mentions an optional OBD port option for this. (http://www.trackspeedengineering.com...nd-Module.html) Does this mean it combines the wideband CAN functionality with your other OBDII-CAN output module? (OBD-II data module for all MS2/MS3 ECUs - Miata Turbo Forum - Turbo Kitten is watching you test compression.) 2. If it does, that thread mentions the capability of outputting custom PIDs such as oil pressure and temp read by the spare analog input channels of the MS3. Can these be output and displayed on a ScanGauge II via the OBD2 module and has anyone done something similar? If it can do this I'm pretty much sold! 2) This threads mentions the idea, not the capability. I said it's a good idea, but I haven't implemented it yet. |
Originally Posted by Chooofoojoo
(Post 1243472)
Question : Does this Canbus interface work with DIY products such as my ms2pnp, or is it proprietary to MS-Labs?
I see that I have canbus H/L inputs on my option connector, but I am an electronics novice. I would gladly pluck down the money to get rid of infuriating voltage offsets by going this route. |
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1243480)
1) OBD-II is standard on all the TrackSpeed modules. All that is missing is the $10 plug (optional) to plug it on ScanGauge. 2) This threads mentions the idea, not the capability. I said it's a good idea, but I haven't implemented it yet.
</p><p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">The following data (PIDs) can be displayed:</span><br /><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- RPM</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- MAP</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- TPS</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- CLT (coolant temp)</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- IAT (air temp)</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- VSS (MS3 only)</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- Timing Advance</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- AFR**</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- EGO correction (ie "Short Term Fuel Trim")**</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- Barometric pressure (requires a baro sensor in your ECU)**</span><br /><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">- Knock Retard**</span></p><p id="448"> |
Correct, no other changes since then.
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Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1243056)
It is awesome, isn't it? :party:
So... how exactly did you get into the INI for the device? :naughty: |
is 1.3.4 the correct INI file for an AEM wideband?
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1.3.4 refers to the ECU firmware, not the CAN module.
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I'm finally getting around to switching my car over to the CAN WB02 controls this weekend. I just wanted to confirm my wiring before I do.
Parts List: MS3 Basic for 99 MSLabs Can WB/OB2 Module AEM Uego MS3 DB37 Pin 1 (RED) - Wired to AEM UEGO 12v Pwr Pin 2 (Black/Yellow) - Wired to AEM UEGO Ground (Black) Pin 4 (Yellow) - Previously WB02 Analog Input - No Longer Used Pin 8 (White)- Wired to CAN module White Pin 9 (Black) - Wired to CAN Module Black Can Module Serial Port Pin 2 - (Blue) AEM Uego Serial Out Can Module Pigtails Red - 12 switched Power Black - Chassis Ground White/Black Twisted - MS3 DB37 Pin 8/9 OBD2 Dongle 12v and Gnd are pulled from chassis sources Pin 4 - Chassis Ground Pin 5 - Chassis Ground Pin 16 - Switched 12V Wired in parallel to the Can Module to the DB37 Pin 6 - Wired to MS3 DB37 Pin 8 (White) CAN H Pin 14 - Wired to MS3 DB37 Pin 9 (Black) CAN L AEM Uego (For Confirmation) Red - MS3 DB37 Pin 1 (Red) Black - MS3 DB37 Pin 2 (Black/Yellow) White - Not Used Blue - CAN Module Pin 2 Future Can Inputs I should be able to wire all future CAN (7 remaining) items to the Can H and Can L of the db37. I would provide those modules power and ground via external sources but I can T off the Can H and Can L wires on the DB37 in parallel. Can some one please confirm that i have the wiring straight? Can someone please confirm the 12v and ground wiring I have listed above? Is the WBO2 still supposed to be powered by the MS3 DB37? Thanks in advance. |
One more question... does the AEM Uego broadcast on both the analog and the digital output at the same time? Meaning if if leave the white wire (analog out) hooked up to the MS3 db37 while the blue wire (serial out) is hooked up to the can module at the same time... will that give me issues?
I wouldn't mind leaving the analog wiring in place in case I have issues and I need to switch back. Also... is it important for the Can module and the Wideband to have the same ground? |
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